1967 Camaro Sleeper Build

[jbtech]

I originally asked you all for help on the direction to take my project here

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=160471

I've made a decision and decided to continue the journey with all of your help on this thread because I didn't want to hijack the Technical and Restoration Section. I have a zero mile 350/autogear 4 speed that will be in the car FOR NOW until I find the big block transplant for the car. However I have a lot of parts to sell to keep an eye on the classifieds.
Update: Engine Sold

I've decided to build a period correct super sleeper that will I believe satisfy all the requirements I wanted in the car. I call it a super sleeper since the car will have the original exterior base 6cyl appearance including 230 fender badges. Since the car had z21 trim, it was I believe the most "pleasant" looking paint/trim package you could get, all feeding into the sleeper identity.

I'm happy with my decision because the requirements I wanted would be met which is to:
-Have period correct identity.
-Be a fun driver to take to shows etc
-Be Unique
-Authentic (Depending on your definition)
-"Affordable" to build (No more pro touring expensive bells and whistles, not too picky on '66-'67 date codes etc)
-Be COOL!

When I first purchased my car, the owner said that the car belonged to a family in which their yanked out the 6cyl/ 3 on the tree and replaced with a v8/muncie as evidenced by the terrible job hacking up the trans tunnel and v8 frame brackets that were on the car.


Must have's on my car

Completely original style paint Bolero Red/Z21 Trim white pinstripe extending the length of the car

Retain Standard Factory Badges including L6 230 Fender emblems (Or maybe no engine size emblems?)

Stock Red interior (yes I decided against the black after-all)

Nothing newer than 1971?? I think I will bite the bullet on a '66 or '67 427 4 bolt block. Scratch that after advice from Anthony and Jason, a nice 454 would still be super cool, period correct, cheap, and more realistic to the theme of the build. Definitely want to run winters heads and intake
-I opened the window of time here not only to save money and avoid the Corvette and Chevelle guys (thanks Jason), but I'm sure the car was driven with the original powertrain at least a few years before the first swap happened.

-Big Block 454 not 427 after all.

-Period Correct aftermarket parts Early 70's or older)

-Retain STOCK Hood (no SS hood, no Cowl hood, I want to sneakily squeeze a big block under that hood)

-Use factory 14x5" wheels with 67 Dog Dish Caps all the way around in street trim, drag wheels and tires on the rear for track trim
Update: I have a set of 14x6's and a set of 14x7's and 15x10's for the rear

-Retain original column shift column with handle removed (it's how I bought the car) to go with the theme/identity

Notes/Questions (Please feel free to reply with your ideas/thoughts/advice)

-Will 1969 350 motor mounts the engine will actually sit low enough to clear a stock hood, will have to figure out the header situation
Update: I will use all Factory '67 Big block mounts, etc. I can still use flat hood.

-I have some 4 pistons on the way, I can always have them sleeved to prevent leaking. I have drums too.
Update: Using dated '69 brakes instead, it's what we would have pulled at the junkyard.

-Guldstrand mod for suspension (please make recommendation on springs/shocks for big block)
Update: No Guldstrand mod

-Brake/Fuel Lines ( I have brand new stainless sets, was stainless available back then? if not I can sell these too)
Update: Using stock steel lines, stainless is difficult to seat

-Would it be cooler to run a manual disc/drum master cylinder? (going to run power brakes, just acquired the master cylinder thanks Anthony)

Needed Parts List (Please inform me of anything I'm missing!)

-Complete running big block preferably with accessories still attached
(Snowflake heads a must)
Update: Big Block being built, NOS 077 Heads
Update: Engine Done. studded 2 bolt 454, 077 heads, 198 intake, 4296 carb



-Front springs and shocks
(Still need recommendation)
Update: Moog CS638 springs, kyb shocks painted gret)

[Lynn]

Only thing I would change is the heater core. After i traded my first Z/28 to my brother in 1972 or 73 he put a 427 in it. The MT valve cover actually touched the heater hose fitting.

Frankly, if you have a SB heater cover, you already have the right cover. Just punch two holes for the BB heater core. Just not worth the head ache.

I have never had a BB Camaro, so no spring recommendations; but my favorite shock for first gens is adjustable Konis. I have them on my Z.

[jbtech]

Originally Posted by Lynn

Only thing I would change is the heater core. After i traded my first Z/28 to my brother in 1972 or 73 he put a 427 in it. The MT valve cover actually touched the heater hose fitting.

Frankly, if you have a SB heater cover, you already have the right cover. Just punch two holes for the BB heater core. Just not worth the head ache.

I have never had a BB Camaro, so no spring recommendations; but my favorite shock for first gens is adjustable Konis. I have them on my Z.

Thanks Lynn Will do I appreciate your advice! Hopefully I can unload everything I'm selling to get this going.

-Jose

[Chuck_Burg]

wow pretty cool Van Nuys body number 70.

[scuncio]

That is a WAY early car.

[jerry455]

This is a pretty good summary of going BBC in first Gen Camaro-
https://stevescamaroparts.blogspot.c...-block-to.html
This is really cool build-I like your approach and there are a lot of good guys on here with valuable experience, parts & insights.
I'm in San Jose too- small world!
Jerry

[jbtech]

Originally Posted by jerry455

This is a pretty good summary of going BBC in first Gen Camaro-
https://stevescamaroparts.blogspot.c...-block-to.html
This is really cool build-I like your approach and there are a lot of good guys on here with valuable experience, parts & insights.
I'm in San Jose too- small world!
Jerry

Jerry thanks for the link! Definitely a small world we should get together sometime! Buy some of my stuff! Just Kidding.

-Jose

[jbtech]

Update:

The last 48 hours have been great. I sold some parts and acquired some much needed parts.

I just picked up my spare pre October '66 frame from being straightened

Picked up a bunch of needed parts many from AnthonyS Thanks!

-4 Piston front calipers
-Wheels
-BB Clutch Fan
-BB Pulleys
-Dist Cap
-Battery Topper
-Front Manifold Lift Bracket
-Flywheel
-T3 Headlights
-163 Intake Square Port
-Valve Covers
-Rear Drum backing plates+drums
-Power Master Cylinder

[Xplantdad]

Anthony is good people!!

[AnthonyS]

Originally Posted by Xplantdad

Anthony is good people!!

aw shucks, kicks a can... thanks guys!