'69 Z, White on White, #s, POP

[napa68]

Popped up on BaT. This should be interesting.......

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...amaro-z-28-14/

[scuncio]

No kidding, I'll be watching. I'll give BaT credit that their picture layout is well done. If I were the seller, I wouldn't have even mentioned the repop window sticker; peanut gallery will pick away at that for sure.

Originally Posted by napa68

Popped up on BaT. This should be interesting.......

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...amaro-z-28-14/

[Crush]

It’s already started.... buckle up!

[napa68]

The question...........

"marsman 13
If the car was assembled 4th week of Feb, why does it have a engine, rear axle, and trans dated March? The first paragraph does not say original engine. ….302ci V8 paired with a numbers-matching Muncie four-speed…?"

The answer............

"corvetteswanted (The Seller) 152
@marsman i cant answer why it is like that but i can tell you that the engine matches exactly what is on the ORIGINAL PROTECT O PLATE… the partial vin is stamped down by the oil filter, and the front pad has the same numbers the protect o plate says it should have…i feel this car has the ORIGINAL engine and All ORIGINAL Components! if you look in the pictures you will see the partial vin stamp and another pic of front pad and pic of the protect o plate"

[Jonesy]

Originally Posted by napa68

The question...........

"marsman 13
If the car was assembled 4th week of Feb, why does it have a engine, rear axle, and trans dated March? The first paragraph does not say original engine. ….302ci V8 paired with a numbers-matching Muncie four-speed…?"

The answer............

"corvetteswanted (The Seller) 152
@marsman i cant answer why it is like that but i can tell you that the engine matches exactly what is on the ORIGINAL PROTECT O PLATE… the partial vin is stamped down by the oil filter, and the front pad has the same numbers the protect o plate says it should have…i feel this car has the ORIGINAL engine and All ORIGINAL Components! if you look in the pictures you will see the partial vin stamp and another pic of front pad and pic of the protect o plate"

Because this is one of those build periods that was delayed and cars got drivetrain components that were dated after the body date.
There is nothing wrong with the dates on the drivetrain of this car.

[cruiserofland]

Originally Posted by scuncio

No kidding, I'll be watching. I'll give BaT credit that their picture layout is well done. If I were the seller, I wouldn't have even mentioned the repop window sticker; peanut gallery will pick away at that for sure.

You were sure right about the BaT peanut gallery and that repop window sticker...

[cruiserofland]

Now the commentariat on BaT are calling into question the drivetrain stamps themselves - what do folks on here think?

[rlw68]

Originally Posted by Jonesy

Because this is one of those build periods that was delayed and cars got drivetrain components that were dated after the body date.
There is nothing wrong with the dates on the drivetrain of this car.

My understanding is that 02D ran from about Feb 19 to Mar 14. The ending VINs were N614xxx which is the same as this car. That would make the drivetrain dates perfect. They could just order a shipping report...

Maybe William will chime in here, I probably learned this from him anyway.



EDIT: they posted a screen shot for the shipping report order. March 14 so there it is.

[Lynn]

I would like to hear from Kurt on the engine pad. I think it looks good, but I don't have the resources he has. Has Jonesy chimed in here? He has a pretty good database of stamps as well.

I think guys are seeing some discoloration (circled in the pic below) and jumping to the conclusion that they are grinder marks. I see all kinds of discoloration on pads that are not painted. I don't see where it has been ground out and restamped.

Its a shame, because the cynics may be bringing the value way down.

[Jonesy]

I dont see that this pad has been ground out. I think something was wiped on there to try to make the numbers look more readable.
The engine pad stamping looks just like similar V0306 stampings I have. I think its legit.
The transmission stamping looks fine also.
I have yet to see the rear axle tube stamping.

02D went into March. If you have a large enough database of cars you can see this and the dates on drivetrain components. This was not the norm.

I know of other cars built 02D that were built quite a bit after this one. That is not normal either.
I think I will just be quiet about revealing anymore than I already did.

I know Kurt has seen the POP and says thats okay too.