latest Jim M. Chevy records rumor

[Keith Tedford]

It is my understanding that 80% plus of the ram air Pontiacs were proven to be built cars. Z28, SS396 and like models probably will have a big number of clones as well. Body VIN stamping documentation will be a must if you want the big dollar. Even now, it is pretty hard to get a fake past all the guys on this web site. You can fool all of the people some of the time, but, you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Just thought that up. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

[Stefano]

Keith,
This is one of the few times I will have to respectfully disagree with you. There are more faked Big Block Chevelles, Big Block Camaros, Z28s and 1967 435 HP Corvettes than the real thing. Some are very easy to detect and some will shock everyone if and when those numbers are released. Just my humble opinion.

I do however,agree that the number of Fake COPOs, Chevelles and Camaros will be a much lower percentage, and that we will probably find more of these cars that were not known then cars that we thought real turning out fake.

Bob,
I believe the deals on the Clone Big Block 435/400/390 Vetts will get better after the numbers are made available [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] and that the real deal Vettes will go up in value.

Very interesting to see how it pans out.

[JChlupsa]

so you mean a car like this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1873668087

wont get by anyone?
Oh wait a min I dont need the papers it has a Norwood VIN and a LOS trim tag got to love the 69 427 in it though wonder what it came out of a Yenko perhaps [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/blush.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/blush.gif[/img]

[copo9566aa]

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[Keith Tedford]

Stefano, I guess I didn't realize just how big the fake industry is. We are about to find out perhaps. I'm lucky, having bought the one Chevelle new and traced the other back to the original owner through the package you get when you buy a vehicle up here. Having the GM of Canada paperwork helps too. This new info can only ad to the value of the real cars. I'll be looking south for a blue glow in the night sky when the information comes out. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

[Stefano]

Keith,
Fakes and fraud have been a problem for a long time and it is much more prevalent than most people want to believe.

I won't mention any names, but recently a seasoned collector went 0 for 3 of his last muscle car purchases. One was a Dodge one was a Ford and one a Chevy. All were documented to a degree and two were restored many years ago, none of the three started life as they were represented and all were purchased from different parties. While this is an extreme situation, the Fakes had to exist in order for him to have made the mistake.

Two of the three had gone from one collection to another over many years and believed to be genuine.

Canadian Muscle cars and Super Cars sell very quickly around here, due to the GM of Canada Documentation.

[Unreal]

As a "cloner" not a "faker" I look forward to Jim's documentation. Maybe that will lift the veil of doubt, when guys like me say they have no intention of defrauding anyone.

[Belair62]

Great....Norwood trim and Van Nuys VIN.....what the heck are they thinking.

[SS427]

There are more faked Big Block Chevelles, Big Block Camaros, Z28s and 1967 435 HP Corvettes than the real thing.

Let us not forget the LS-6 Chevelle. I can't wait to see how many times I get to say, "I told you so." [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/blush.gif[/img] Likely 40-50% of these cars are also fake today.

[Chevy454]

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He has 68-81 Corvettes nearly done, plans on releasing it first, followed by 63-67, followed by 54-62 Corvettes. I heard that Alan Colvin is involved with this project? Anyone know if this is true?

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Would this possibly be in conjunction with Colvin's new "Corvette by the Numbers" book? Possibly one hand washed the other.