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I too feel Mecum put on a First Class Event and has raised the bar for muscle car auction. I was able to buy the Yellow ZL1 for what I feel is way under the market value of these cars. Dave & Jill'S collection was one we all admired & will be missed. Thanks for all the hospitality & memories. Wayne
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Wayne you stole that car you should have been wearing a mask. LOL
Mike , I think Dana always runs a great auction arguably the best out there IMHO. I just think the TV coverage was hard to find and INDIANAPOLIS sucks as a venue city. There I said it all you Indy residents and Indy lovers commence with the bashing. Indy may have been attractive to Dana but I have been to Indy and hope to never return. Chicago suburbs, Phoenix, Vegas, California all are places that would attract more buyers. Indy was a great place to hide an auction and a great place for dealers to pay wholesale. Yeah I heard the rumors about the heavy hitters bidding on the ZL-1 and am kicking myself for listening to them. And yeah I think the Colts suck also. Da Bearz rule. ![]() |
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"Hide an auction" ? Were you under a rock ? It was on directv for 7 hours. It was on Ebay. Plenty of us were there, just not you so you think it was hidden ? The economy is in the tank. Prices on everything has tanked except for the price of gas. I know one bidder that was set to buy a couple of the significant cars but is very unsure of things because his business involves transportation and the price of diesel is a big concern. He was prepared to pay more than the 800K for the ZL1 but didn't bid at all. There are tons of guys that say "I would have paid more than that" on certain cars but they didn't. There was a guy that supposedly was offering 6 mil for Daves collection about a week before Dave comitted to Dana. He was at the auction saying how much better it would have been for Dave. He could have bought the exact same collection at the auction and saved a million dollars but he bought nothing! So was he really going to pay 6 mil or was he just another stroke ?
The Olds converts had no paperwork and the front sheetmetal on the red car had fenders from a different year so that is why the prices were lower than some people expected. People have been bitching for the last few years about how over priced the cars are. Now that the prices are dropping they are bitching about prices dropping. There are a bunch of cars that used to sell on the 60K-70K range that over the last few years have jumped over 100-200K that will probably come back down again. |
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There was a guy that supposedly was offering 6 mil for Daves collection about a week before Dave comitted to Dana. He was at the auction saying how much better it would have been for Dave. [/ QUOTE ] So, was it Mike S. that wante to buy the collection as a whole? I mean...at one time he said that he already had it. ![]() ![]()
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"Hide an auction" ? The economy is in the tank. Prices on everything has tanked except for the price of gas. I know one bidder that was set to buy a couple of the significant cars but is very unsure of things because his business involves transportation and the price of diesel is a big concern. People have been bitching for the last few years about how over priced the cars are. Now that the prices are dropping they are bitching about prices dropping. There are a bunch of cars that used to sell on the 60K-70K range that over the last few years have jumped over 100-200K that will probably come back down again. [/ QUOTE ] very well said imo.the economy is in the tank. |
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I respect your opinion Les, but, as I've said many times on this board, if you're not at the auction in question, your opinion can't be considered accurate. There were plenty of people with the ability to buy these cars. I spoke with the person heading up the phone bidding effort, and, they had no less than five phone bidders on the major cars, each with their own phone bid attendant. There was plenty of opportunity to bid if you wanted to, so, the location was secondary to the cars themselves. The simple fact is that the bidding stopped when there weren't two people willing to go higher. There is no telling where it would have stopped if there was another willing bidder.
Dave & Jill were happy, Dana was happy, the attendees were happy; it seems like only Les is unhappy, LOL. Chill & I hope to see you at the Mecum Fall auction in St. Charles. As an aside, a couple of the Mecum auctioneer group also work the B-J auctions. Jimmy Landis is the best at what he does in my opinion, bar NONE. The word is that for even the B-J team, they have never sold a higher dollar volume in the same time that that it took to sell the Christenholz collection. We can disect this all day, but, that said a lot to them, and, it says a lot to me as well. Let's not lament the prices. Let's celebrate the new momentum that should lead to a nice steady up trend. We all have something to look forward to. My suggestion to those that have been locked out of the market especially for Supercars, is to jump in while you can. I don't think there has been a better time to get in, at least for the last several years. |
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Thanks for your perspective Mike...sounds like you guys had a blast there.
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Hi There,
Can I chime in? Les, Charley, Mike - Group Hug! Regards, Stuart Smalley, Host "Daily Affirmations with Stuart Smalley" |
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Looks like a great venue - most (all?) cars indoors. Recall the fairgrounds working okay for the Street Nats, too.
Bet the RS ZL-1 buyer'll get his money back when he's done having fun. |
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Yeah Charley I was hiding under a rock. Unfortunately my rock didn't have a HD TV decoder box and we couldn't get the auction? 77 hours or 77,000 of TV it doesn't matter if you can't find it. I can watch Barrett Jackson in my cabin 9000 feet up on a remote Utah mountain in a blizzard but can't find Dana's auction in my living room in Vegas?
Yeah I wasn't there this weekend but I have been there before for a car show and half a dozen of my friends were there this weekend who don't have to tow Dana's party line on this forum and the facility is located in the middle of a poorer section of Indy. Heck why not just find a real ghetto next time? LOL So Charley and Mike I am just curious how many times in the past when the kids were a little younger have you said "Hey Honey get the kids and pack up the car were going to Indy to watch the grass grow" or whatever they do there for excitement? Lets see BJ has three auctions one in Phoenix, one in West Palm Beach and now one in Vegas all on speedvision. Drew has one in Scottsdale, one in Monterray and one in Florida near Disney World. So you guys are arguing its easier to get the family to a bad section of Indy rather than those places I just mentioned? And I am living under a rock??? ![]() I have always said Dana gets the best cars and runs the best most relaxed customer friendly auctions but in my very humble opinion Indy sucks, his HD TV coverage sucks and first and foremost ![]() |
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