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Old 08-21-2008, 05:31 AM
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This is but one of many reasons why I won't deal with PayPal

(watch out for the ".com" version of the above website, it set off my antivirus alert)

I have absolutely nothing to gain by using their service.
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Old 08-21-2008, 05:38 AM
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:24 AM
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I always used Paypal, thinking that it was a Good, Safe way to transfer Money.....Which it is......Plus....I never let them take the money directly from my Bank Account, I always used American Express as my Funding source thinking that I would have a Double Guarantee and could challange a "Problem" by denying payment thru Amex...
Well, I bought and Paid (thru PayPal) for some Items and never received them........I went to the Paypal Resolution Center and filed a Dispute about non delivery (Remember.....They always say it the Safe, Protected way to Pay)....After 5 weeks I was informed by PayPal that the Dispute was Ruled in my Favor, But......I would only get a Refund if the Seller returned the Money to Paypal.....But, Since they either changed Identities or were no longer a Registered Seller on Ebay........The Chances were very slim that I would ever see any Money.....
So.......I thought....No Big Deal as I would deny Payment to Amex.........Ends up if I did that, Paypal would Freeze My account and would end up being in a "Pissing" Contest with them......Guess who would end up on the Short end....
In the End I decided to just write it off as it wasn't worth the "Hassle" .......So Much for the Safe Way to pay............. ..........Although....Many dealings on Ebay and having being burned by just one "Jerk" I guess isn't that Bad...

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Old 08-21-2008, 06:45 AM
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I haven't been burned by paypal "yet"... I would rather them leave it alone and let the check and Money order people stay around. I got burned once on a 6 dollar decal that never showed up after several emails and a promise to send a second one... Almost got burned one time on a deal made after an auction ended... He got my 400 bucks plus change and several months later I finally got my part after many phone calls... Last deal I will make like that one. I do use paypal, I use a bank that is separate from my regular bank so if something happens it isn't going to affect my other finances. After several years of Internet, I am still scared of online transactions..... I probably always will be... I still use stamps and snail mail for most things even though everyone trys to get us all to do every single thing in life online ...


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Old 08-21-2008, 06:57 AM
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I have never accepted pay pal nor do I have an account. It protects the buyer and not the seller. I have had only one bad check in 8 years and it was made good after notifing the buyer. Time to look for another source to sell items. Larry.
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Old 08-21-2008, 08:57 AM
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Looks like the IRS will now get what they have been wanting---an indisputable paper trail that will be simple to get. It also appears ebay is bound and determined to kill the golden goose by giving all of the leverage to the buyers. Ebays forums are full of sellers who have sold big ticket items, gotten paypal for payment, sent the item in good faith, only to
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Old 08-21-2008, 09:04 AM
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have the buyer claim the item never arrived and get a refund from paypal. To make up for it, the buyer usually leaves a negative feedback though. I will only sell $100 and under items on ebay from now on, but will sell my rare NOS stuff here and in Hemmings. Time to sell the ebay stock!!!
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Old 08-21-2008, 09:10 AM
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Looks like it's just part of the master plan after reading legislation recently passed by Congress buried in the Housing Relief Tax Bill.

Payment Card Reporting:

"The legislation will require institutions that make payments to merchants in settlement of credit and debit cards, as well as third-party payment networks such as PAYPAL, to report the gross amount of settlements they pay to, or for the benefit of, merchants and other recipients beginning in 2011. Treasury is authorized to establish rules under which the information returns will be filed."

"In the case of third-party payment networks, reporting would only be required on payees who receive at least $20,000 in income from the transactions each year or participate in at least 200 transactions in a year. However, there is not a similar de minimis rule in the case of CREDIT and DEBIT cards. Reporting is required with respect to all payees, including INDIVIDUALS, corporations and partnerships."

" The new reporting requirements will apply for settlements occurring in calendar year 2011. Back-up withholding for those who do not provide a valid taxpayer identification number will be required beginning in 2012."


Money orders and Checks are not their "friends" with this new legislation!
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Old 08-21-2008, 04:14 PM
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A postal money order is considered same as cash.
and last time I checked it was ILLEGAL to refuse cash as payment for debt.
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Old 08-21-2008, 06:24 PM
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"" I always used Paypal, thinking that it was a Good, Safe way to transfer Money.....Which it is......Plus....I never let them take the money directly from my Bank Account, I always used American Express as my Funding source thinking that I would have a Double Guarantee and could challange a "Problem" by denying payment thru Amex...""


I do the same thing, I will not use a debit card or let paypal take money directly out of my account. As with both methods (Debit,or direct account transfer) once the money is gone its gone and regardless of what happens you have less of a chance of getting the money back if you have a problem.

I dont sell stuff so I cant comment on the sellers problems.

I find (at least on line) I will bid less for items which require MO's because of the hassle.




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