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Old 10-23-2008, 07:00 PM
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"This car has been so artfully altered it even fooled a recognized camaro expert who inspected it."

Anyone can be a Victim of Fraud!
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Old 10-24-2008, 01:21 AM
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"This car has been so artfully altered it even fooled a recognized camaro expert who inspected it."

Anyone can be a Victim of Fraud!

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Reminds me of a Montreal F1 weekend about 20 years ago when one of the boys fell in love for the night..
He was ready to jump off the Cartier bridge when 'she' turned out to be Lola (nothing to do w/ racing cars of the same name)..


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It didn't fool the person who inspected it. No one would have bought that car for 40K if they had seen all 3 pages of the report.
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Old 10-24-2008, 01:49 AM
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It didn't fool the person who inspected it. No one would have bought that car for 40K if they had seen all 3 pages of the report.

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OK, Now someone post a copy of the report so everyone is on the up and up. This is the type of education that is needed in this hobby.
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You'll have to get it from the new owner (assuming he still is the owner) Only he and the inspector have copies.
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The experts report states then, that the cars identity has been altered and it is a rebody??????????????????????? Seems unlikely to me?
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It didn't fool the person who inspected it. No one would have bought that car for 40K if they had seen all 3 pages of the report.

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Actually, the report says it's estimated value is 100k-120k. I see alot of minor restoration details noted, finishes/etc. but nothing in the report would indicate to me that the car itself was ever suspect...the first page seems to clarify that. I could see how a non-Camaro expert/hobbiest/collector could look at this report and feel confident he was buying a good restored car with some minor details that needed attention.
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I don't see any opinion in the report as to whether any of the components are original to the car. Interesting to note that the car apparently had the wrong transmission in it according to the report, even though it was stamped correctly. Also that the car had the wrong leaf springs in it, an odd occurrence I would think for a car containing its complete and original drive train.
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Excuse me as I move past the elephant in the room but, how does it have the correct numbers matching drive train when, as I understand it the progression was:

1) "too far gone" hulk with only value being the items in #2 and seemingly destroyed by accounts
2) tags, paperwork and one hidden VIN on eBay
3) tags, paperwork and one hidden VIN on hulk on eBay (maybe original hulk)
4) correct, certified, numbers matching car at restorer's shop
5) sold at BJ as #4 to a highly respected, knowlegable collector

Next question- Could the pad stamping and brooch marks have been so good that Jerry M didn't pick them up for his report?
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Some people just flat out refuse too see the elephant in the room!!! That's obvious to me after reading all the threads here, CRG and Team Camaro. You have an obvious set of tags and paperwork sold on Ebay certified by "The Camaro" expert, who should have known better, if that's his business!! Now what comes into play here, is all the appraisals and certifications that a lot of people have paid dearly for. Are these certifications worth the paper they are written on? I'm sure there are many cars that are worthy of the certification, but which ones are they? Some refuse to believe the obvious and others just need to do their own research on any future purchase. I for one wouldn't spend 6 figures on this signature!
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