Barrett Jackson Las Vegas

[704EVER]

I have to disagree here Bowtie, the way BJ has the paperwork set up, it's 100% buyer beware and they are responsible for and guaranty nothing. The seller has every right to demand full payment for the car, as someone bought it, fraud not withstanding, that's a whole different lawsuit. Now BJ is between a rock and a hard place. Do they want their best customer in protracted litigation over one of the cars that went across their block? I wouldn't think so and is it the first time a less than original/fake car has crossed their block? I wouldn't think so on that issue either. The problem for BJ here is who bought the car, if it were you or I, we'd be screwed. Given the set of circumstances concerning this car, the last thing they probably ever thought would happen is Classicgary showing up. Now they need to try to maintain some sort of integrity concerning their auctions and consignments, that's not going to happen with a public dog fight looming. They need this to go away and go away fast, Scottsdale is around the corner. They can well afford to "Take one for the Team" here.

[Xplantdad]

I beg to differ...BJ doesn't have to take it on the chin...

If there is something wrong with the car...BJ does an unwind...the car gets returned to the seller (or not...depending on what law enforcement does)...then the seller pays both the selling commision...the buying commision and any outstanding fees to BJ as well.

Buyer gets his money back...BJ gets their fees...and the seller deals with the mess that he started...

I think that it would be in the best interest of everyone to make it happen as soon as possible.

[rubbinisracing]

Lets see...

Buyer has the car. BJ has the money. Seller is empty handed.

Its easy... buyer gets made whole and learns a valuable lesson. One some of us have paid dearly for. BJ takes the car back and calls the authorities who impound the car for 18-24 months. Seller won't file suit seeking return of the car due to involvement in the fraudulent build and misrepresentation of the car. He ends up with nothing till the authorities decide what to do with the car, although he may be charged with a few felonies.

[704EVER]

Point taken, but has BJ ever done an unwind? Especially in a high profile case like this? I have no doubt they have the lawyers in place to do it, but has it ever happened? And what about the seller, Gary has "Officially retracted" his statement, so where does that place the seller in litigation wanting his due from BJ? I don't think law enforcement even comes into play now. He presented it, BJ promoted it, someone bought it, who pays? The way I see it is, after Gary retracted, it becomes a viable deal, someone bought the car and someone has to pay for it. I can't see the seller taking the car back and even remotely thinking about paying BJ 18% with Gary retracting, so where does it go from here? I know it's a mess and not right, but I also think that someone's coughing up the money to make it go away. Who has the most to lose here? My guess is BJ, that's all.

[chevelleheart]

Boy has this thread taken on a life of it's own !! Does anyone know who the builder of the Rally Green Camaro is ? I believe I saw him that day coming over to Ron to shake his hand. He's also up on stage during the selling of the car,...kinda a big guy , +/- 5-10 ,+/- 220 lbs ,in a black/white bowling shirt, blondish hair,.... It might be good to know which shop the car came from, just so any potential future buyer's have a bit of a heads up on what kind of work they do ??? Kinda like the Oregon Guy.......

[al8apex]

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[1969z280]

Is he the same guy who did the 2 Matching Cortez Silver Z/28s at Barrett last year? There was a thread here showing some terrible cowl tags and I believe someone even over-heard some discussion on the plane.

[al8apex]

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Boy has this thread taken on a life of it's own !! Does anyone know who the builder of the Rally Green Camaro is ? I believe I saw him that day coming over to Ron to shake his hand. He's also up on stage during the selling of the car,...kinda a big guy , +/- 5-10 ,+/- 220 lbs ,in a black/white bowling shirt, blondish hair,.... It might be good to know which shop the car came from, just so any potential future buyer's have a bit of a heads up on what kind of work they do ??? Kinda like the Oregon Guy.......

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he has a website here:

http://independentcustoms.com/contents01.htm

here he is:

http://independentcustoms.com/kent1.htm


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[RamAirDave]

Interesting...

From: http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=4432.75

Here is some info that comes from a very reliable source.
The car did have a law enforcement vin#verifaction of all vin#s when it arrived at the resto shop before any work was done.
All previous owners were contacted prior to restoration including garys ex-wife.
Certification was done by Jerry without frontend on car and nothing was flagged.
There are over 1000 photos of the restoration.
There is a criminal investigation on-going requested by all parties involved.
There is registration that all parties have that proves the car was registered 2 -3 years after gary allegedly buried it.
clue, Pretty green car=money,greed,envy,jail

[704EVER]

I don't see law enforcement taking that car, there are too many grey areas here. The state Prosecutor isn't going to waste time on this, after all, it was certified by an "EXPERT" for the seller, accepted by BJ, and sold, end of story on that front. Once Gary went away, now the car becomes a real/viable commodity that has to be dealt with in a business like fashion. So who's paying the freight here on this deal? My money says the new owner got a gift from BJ.