ZL1 # 48 coming to Barrett-Jackson

[olredalert]

----Like your occupation and hobby, Mel! Wife says I do both and I never knew I could make a living at it......Bill S

[Bigcubez]

I agree with Mel, nicest COPO I have ever seen....and I have seen a bunch in my years going to shows in the US.

[RichSchmidt]

The dates on the inner A-pillars,outer rockers,cowl sides and inner roof would be the critical ones. Even if the car were resurrected from a backhalfed race car or even tube chassis car,at least 3 out of those 5 should have survived. Somebody could claim that the face of the firewall,floor,frame rails,package tray,quarters and tail panel were replaced because the car was a full blown race car,but the firewall with at least the a-pillars or outer rockers should be original. Just my $.02

[RichSchmidt]

Just curious,my 70 race car VIN photo'd the same way.(the SRDcar).

[RichSchmidt]

Interesting,the car in question does have very dark marks through the spaces in the digits,mine are lighter. I do see that there are light marks above the numbers where a pencil couldn't make good contact because the tag was mounted in a car. Mine was difficult,the roll bar made it hard to get a pencil in there,and the tag didn't have the metal backing plate behind it,so it wasn't siting firm behind the dash board. mine was done with a dull pencil. His lokes like the pencil was harp and being run over from a directly above angle.

[olredalert]

----Im thinking to forget all about everything else. Concentrate on the "9s"!!!.....Bill S

[twertsy]

It's not only the 9s. Imagery change detection software threw the following where image 1 = pencil and image 2 = picture. Software never gives 100% for some reason! even if you compare pictures of apples and oranges.....99% = absolute

1. 1st character in image 1 higher in relative position: probability: 72%
2. 3rd character inconsistent width, image 1 wider: probability: 34%
3. 4th character inconsistent dimensions, image 1 lower half elongated: probability: 92%
4. 6th and 11th characters inconsistent pattern, image 1 lower half angle: probability: 99%
5. 10th and 11th character spacing, image 1 gap wider: probability: 94%

[bergy]

So, are you saying that the image detection software liked or didn't like the nines @ 99% probability? Hard to believe that it would like them.

[twertsy]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, are you saying that the image detection software liked or didn't like the nines @ 99% probability? Hard to believe that it would like them. </div></div>

99% probability that they are not the same

[RichSchmidt]

O.K. Now I am seeing the problems. The 9 on the pencil tracing is definatly not the same,but the funny thing is that both of my 9's and his 9 on his real tag are the same. I have seem numbers located up and down out of line on many tags. I see that on both my real tag and pencil trace,the #1 looks to be offset to the left edge of the block for that digit. His isn't on either the tracing or real tag. I don't know the reason why the #1 on his looks to be higher in the tracing then on the tag,I know the pencil has to be run at different angles to get all the digits completely,so I wonder if trying to trace at the top left corner put him at an awkward angle. I know that mine looks much more accurate from tag to trace,and mine is very hard to get to because it is behind a bar on a roll cage and is sunk into the dash on what seems to be a lightly acid dipped car. My pencil was definitely much duller then his,and mine looks mire like somebody rubbed some kind of carbon over the paper,but it is in fact pencil. I cant explain much other then the 9's and the spacing of the first digit seem off on his. I know nothing about his car,so don't think that I have any bias here,I just like to help on these issues.

As for my tag,it is for my 70 race car that I am trying to find he history on,and I have the VIN all over the internet,so I figured I was the person who would not care about sharing pictures.