Day 2 parts discussion

[Salvatore]

I think Pete Suriano made them in his shop in Pottstown. Guarantee they are Day-2 vintage if Pete made them. The metal is 40 years old and the snubbers probably came from an A-frame bumper somewhere. HA!

[Nova Jed]

Well, if Pete made them Sammy, then he did a good job. But he may have made them for a Vega originally??? Too small for a Nova with some HP.

[PxTx]

I agree Jed, I like the bars that contact under the spring eye. Not sure if these old bars did, but they were one of the coolest sets of slapper bars- especially whith the wheel extension!

[Salvatore]

Nope, not always.

[Plowman]

And they still work. I made some slapper bars too. Still on the car and working good. Day 2 parts foreveer. Paul

[whitetop]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I agree Jed, I like the bars that contact under the spring eye. Not sure if these old bars did, but they were one of the coolest sets of slapper bars- especially whith the wheel extension!
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I don't think any of the old bars were ever under the spring eye. Competition Engineering was the first to push this idea back in the late 70's-the importance of having the bar under the spring eye-that was their selling point.

It does not really matter to be honest to me at least. Most of the &quot;Day 2&quot; cars are just for regular street driving and the occasional street burst/romp on old bias or even new radials no real harm is going to be done.

Now if you are on a sticky racetrack every weekend with slicks or soft drag radials and really pushing the horsepower there might be some concern.

These are more show than go anyway for the the majority of Day 2 cars.

[Gary Anderson]

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=36423

[PxTx]

Here is my dad, Plowman's Nova circa 1971. Note his homemade slapper bars and how they were long enough to reach the spring eye then. I guess he was an innovator ahead of CE. The pic isn't great but look at Jed's bars for length and look at these.



I may be in the minority on this, but I do expect my Day 2 parts to perform well 1st and look good 2nd. I do like the challenge of making some of this old technology work as well as the modern stuff. I also street drive 4.88's anywhere with dual quads which isn't the norm these days either.

Thanks for the perspective Dave. I guess I've got to open my mind to this (new to me) idea of what is considered a Day 2 car these days. I might have to come up wiht another name for what I was thinking a Day 2 car was.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: whitetop</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I agree Jed, I like the bars that contact under the spring eye. Not sure if these old bars did, but they were one of the coolest sets of slapper bars- especially whith the wheel extension!
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I don't think any of the old bars were ever under the spring eye. Competition Engineering was the first to push this idea back in the late 70's-the importance of having the bar under the spring eye-that was their selling point.

It does not really matter to be honest to me at least. Most of the &quot;Day 2&quot; cars are just for regular street driving and the occasional street burst/romp on old bias or even new radials no real harm is going to be done.

Now if you are on a sticky racetrack every weekend with slicks or soft drag radials and really pushing the horsepower there might be some concern.

These are more show than go anyway for the the majority of Day 2 cars. </div></div>

[whitetop]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I may be in the minority on this, but I do expect my Day 2 parts to perform well 1st and look good 2nd. I do like the challenge of making some of this old technology work as well as the modern stuff. I also street drive 4.88's anywhere with dual quads which isn't the norm these days either.

Thanks for the perspective Dave. I guess I've got to open my mind to this (new to me) idea of what is considered a Day 2 car these days. I might have to come up wiht another name for what I was thinking a Day 2 car was.

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Paul, don't let me tell you how you should do your car. Everyone is different on this trend and that's fine.

I'm part of the school who take the old parts as is...that is how they were back in the day, design flaws and all. I was on JJournal one day and a guy with a 50's style rod was telling how his friend is building a hitech style rod and said he wanted it to ride just like a Lexus and of course everyone piped back ..&quot;Then he should just buy a Lexus&quot; in typical H.A.M.B.fashion with more.. let's say...salty language.

To me part of the thrill is experiencing how these cars drove back in the day, bias ply tires, braking, old style suspensions..all their little quirks. I guess I have the same thinking towards the speed equipment.

Funny, I would bet most of the old speed equipment performs as well as the new stuff when dealing with apples versus apples. Carb versus carb etc. Car Craft did an intake comparison several years back and the old 70's $50 swap meet Edelbrock/Torker combo made nearly as much power as the new fangled high $$$ latest intake of the same design. Not as much of course but on the street is anyone really going to notice a 6 hp increase? I'm surprised they printed the results.

Much of the new speed equipment is just rehashed old designs. The Edelbrock Air gap intake is basically the old mid 70's Scorpion air gap style. I would bet most people could not tell the difference on the street between the two.

[Nova Jed]

Guys, I would most likely use the ones I have, if they are somewhat old speedparts? I agree that it's going to be a romp around town kind of car and not an all out every weekend drag car. I was concerned about the length on these bars only because I can see a bow, in the opposite direction, in the leafspring. Heck, I have no idea how long those bars were on the car before I got it? And who knows how old the springs are?

Either way, I can understand the engineering concept of having the snubber under the spring perch.

I'm going to take the wheel off this week and take pictures so I have some idea of what brand they are. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

You guys are the teachers on here, I am just a student. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img]