Need Opinion on Pontiac Formula Survivor

[daleone3]

Originally Posted by Tidmack

I can't thank you enough for getting back in touch with your kind words. Preservation is my business and I have a funny feeling you're going to be pretty happy with this car. I can't offer any input on the dealer or their reputation, but I like the way they present cars. Here's the way I look at a car like this: after shipping, tax, and insurance, if you decide to part ways with the car after a season or two, I truly believe you'll end up in the black on this one. Good luck and please keep in touch if you make the deal!

Jeff

I may be parting ways with an 83 C10, 2WD shorty, well preserved as well.
68k miles, southern truck, one repaint. Red/Red, fully optioned and as clean as new underneath

[Tidmack]

I may have some interest in your truck. Please private message me with information if you decide you'd like to part ways. Thanks again and good luck with the Formula...I'm excited to hear how it goes!

Originally Posted by daleone3

I may be parting ways with an 83 C10, 2WD shorty, well preserved as well.
68k miles, southern truck, one repaint. Red/Red, fully optioned and as clean as new underneath

[Charley Lillard]

If you look at that hood stop bolt on top of the cowl you can see the black was sprayed after the body color. You can see how the bolt blocked the black from getting on the orange that was already there. If the orange was sprayed second it would have covered the black that you can see in front of the orange side of that bolt. Make sense ?

[njsteve]

Originally Posted by Charley Lillard

If you look at that hood stop bolt on top of the cowl you can see the black was sprayed after the body color. You can see how the bolt blocked the black from getting on the orange that was already there. If the orange was sprayed second it would have covered the black that you can see in front of the orange side of that bolt. Make sense ?

Yup. That makes sense in a forensic, crime scene kind of way. Looks like we had an apathetic, altitude-challenged blackout painter who refused to move from his standing location in the lower center/front of the body area, versus the tall, happily employed guy who painted my two cars and who actually moved his position to cover both ends of the cowl.

You can see the opposite coverage pattern on the bolt on my 73, where the blackout paint hit it from the side. The fact that the bolt was fully white before the blackout paint hit it does confirm that there was a %$#load of body colored paint in that area prior to being blacked out.

[daleone3]

Originally Posted by Charley Lillard

If you look at that hood stop bolt on top of the cowl you can see the black was sprayed after the body color. You can see how the bolt blocked the black from getting on the orange that was already there. If the orange was sprayed second it would have covered the black that you can see in front of the orange side of that bolt. Make sense ?

Charley and everyone that offered input, thank you.
The most important thing for me is the originality of the car and paint. The term survivor gets used in many forms though I have always felt that in order to check that box, paint would be original from factory. Everyone has their own idea but that is mine. In terms of the car and the way the owner presented it I am now feeling that paint is original to the car or at least that is what I am gathering from Charley's CSI like observation. Going to put this together and try to get it done. Car is not perfect but I bet it is the lowest mileage 76 formula around, at least here in New England. Thank you all again for inputs, feel free to keep any thoughts coming.

[daleone3]

Originally Posted by Charley Lillard

If you look at that hood stop bolt on top of the cowl you can see the black was sprayed after the body color. You can see how the bolt blocked the black from getting on the orange that was already there. If the orange was sprayed second it would have covered the black that you can see in front of the orange side of that bolt. Make sense ?

Thank you Charley, that was my thought as well. The overspray is too identical to have been later in life, appreciate the CSI like eye you have. Working on putting the deal together thanks to all of the great input. Will keep you posted.

[Burd]

Originally Posted by daleone3

Thank you Charley, that was my thought as well. The overspray is too identical to have been later in life, appreciate the CSI like eye you have. Working on putting the deal together thanks to all of the great input. Will keep you posted.

My 78 has a black ugly stuff sprayed on the cowl, I think after the car was painted and after the ac box was installed.

[Mr.Nickey Nova]

That car is a cream puff!! Buy it and get the headliner fixed and a little TLC underneath. Love the dog dish look...

[GrumpyJeff]

Pretty Car ! I've always preferred the Formulas over the T/A's Love the Color,4spd & Dog dishes !!! Good Luck

[Charley Lillard]

That looks like a great car to me and I hope you get it. Keep us posted.