Motion Tires

[whitetop]

Another 69 with 275 -60 radials on 15x8. Car ran 14x6 front with 195-75 or 205 -75 radials. Just remember the fron tire were too small in width. Rim is wider than tire tread so you get the bulging sidewall.

[JoeG]

Hi Whitetop,
Nice photos-- I also liked a slight rake on a car.--JoeG [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

[COPO]

Dave, many thanks for all the pictures and the advice. Unfortunately, the availability of sizes in the Pro-tracs is pretty limited. Here is a link to the Coker website listing the Pro-trac sizes they carry http://www.cokertire.com/default2.asp

Given the Reunion is only a week away, I need to get something now and I can put some different fronts on later if the look is not right. Sounds like I might have to use a 14" front to get the right look??

[Born30YrsLate]

Have you thought about putting redlines on the car?....I've been looking at a company that makes redline radials in all the popular sizes and am contemplating on putting them on my '69 camaro (the car is nothing special other than the fact it was my "first"). Anybody ever use these tires? I've provided a link to their website if you are interested......... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]
Redline Radial Tires

[Zedder]

Whitetop, You've got the look down perfectly there! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

[tom406]

The backspacing on those Cragar 8" wheels will be your killer. I'm guessing they're 3-3/4" like Americans, and this will lead to contact with your fender lip. 15x7" rims with 4.25" or 15x8" with 4.5" of backspacing seem to be the key to fitting big rubber (255 or 275/60s and their bias equivalents). If it were mine, I'd have the Cragar's cut and rewelded to increase the backspace. Even jacked up, I don't want that tire to hit my car. If you're really pressed for time, I'd mount F70's on the 6" cragars, and paint up some 15x7" steel rims with 4.25" backspacing with the big tires (mount some slicks maybe?) to give it a weekend race ready look, and take some time to sort out your 8" Cragar/tire size/final stance decisions.

Don't go 14's on the front, staggered wheel sizes just never look right.....

Somebody take a picture and post it of this car at the reunion. It'll be nice to see what happens!

[whitetop]

Copo
I personally like 14x6 with F-70-14 for the front but that is a personal preferance. The 15x6 on a '69 Camaro/Nova look to big. The wheels on the ralley green Camaro are 15x8 rear(reversed deep dish) and 14x6 front.
And actually many of the Motion cars used 14" on the front and 15" rear. Joel would run the factory 14" Firestones/Goodyears up front on 14x6 cragars and run 15x8 or 15x10 Cragars on the rear. This is how Mark Timken did his '70 B/M Camaro. Motion would use the factory front tire to just use them up and go to big meats out the back as any factory tire was worthless. Remember this is how it was done back then as these cars were street racers and the big and little look was what people wanted. Mismatched brand/size of tires from front to rear was the norm.
Again this is my preferance but I would run a good year F-70-14 on the front and a Pro-Trac L-60 on the rear. I think in one of the pics of a lineup of Motion '70 Camaros the fronts were Firestone wide ovals and the rears were M/T's.

Tom406, the backspacing for a 15x8 Cragar is 4 1/4. The wheels are tucked in more than a American TT.

Copo, you asked for wheel/tire opinions. You sure did get mine! That is what makes this hobby so great everybody wants a different look.
Dave

[COPO]

I really appreciate everyone's input! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

[whitetop]

Charlie
You mentioned you was putting on sidepipes and the large Motion rear wing. You are adding a lot of "bulk" to the rear of the car. Large rear tires will help counterbalance this and keep everything in proportion.
Too skinny/small of a rear tire combination will make your car look like size 13EEE shoes on roller skates.
Dave

[JoeC]

The only trouble is that if the tires hit I don't think you will want to do the old school fix which was take a baseball bat and roll it between the tire and q-panels to roll the inner edge under. You may need to play with the spring arch to get the right clearance.