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I don't have a 427 Camaro/Chevelle but would a 1969 427/435HP L71 Corvette be considered a SUPERCAR? Is a 396/375HP L78 Camaro SS a SUPERCAR?
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I don't think it really matters. That is like asking if a car is a muscle car. If you like it, enjoy it. To answer the question, I think most here consider supercars to be dealer built or factory special built to qualify for racing.
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For this site..we define it simply
[ QUOTE ] Dedicated to the promotion and preservation of the Chevrolet dealer built Supercars and COPO cars. [/ QUOTE ]
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it is a very loaded question actually. as belair62 stated by the website description its dedicated to the CHEVROLET dealer built supercar and COPO cars. however, a 69 Hurst SC/rambler is a dealer built racecar specifically designed to compete in F Stock dragracing. and the SC in SC/rambler stands for Super Car. i am to young to know when exactly the term Super Car was placed on dealer installed and factory prepared automobiles, but i would be just plain lying to you if i said this was only a Chevy thing.
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I think that if you talk about the L89, L88 and ZL1 Corvettes, yes. I'd include the '71 LS6 in this group, also. You've got aluminum heads, solid lifter and tri-power in the case of the L89. These are racing cars with high dollar options that were in extremely low production when available. If you've ever driven a well tuned L89 Corvette, you'd classify it as a Supercar. I mean no disrespect for an L78, L72 or L71 Corvette, but these were certainly more mainstream Corvettes with a fair number made.
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The 1970 L78 Camaro is rarer than a 1969 427 COPO Camaro, why is that not in the SUPERcar category.
The L78 has square ports, 11 to 1's, solid cam, 4 bolt main,forged pistons, dimple rods,780 holley,etc same as the COPO, it is a race car same as COPO. The L72/L71/L78 Corvettes are race cars also, basically with same motors. Now the L88/ZL1 these are truely special race engines in a higher category. I think that if you call a L72 COPO Camaro a supercar then a L72 Vette is also one. |
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OK, I know I'll regret this but let's give it a try anyway.
The L-78 Camaro you reference, although a rare animal for 1970, was in fact available to the general public through ANY Chevy Dealer, just like the 435 HP Corvette. The LT-1 Nova (aka Deuce) was NOT an RPO code for the Nova in 1970. It was a specially built car made possible through the COPO process. General consensus here (the Supercar Registry/ sYc) is that RPO optioned cars DO NOT fall into the 'SUPERCAR' category as defined by this site. Another example: In 1968 an automatic transmission WAS NOT available to the general public behind the L-78 in a Nova. Fifty of those cars were built; COPO 9738. In 1969 it was available to the general public so the M-40 equipped L-78 Novas in '69 & '70 are not considered SUPERCARS. Confusing? It really has nothing to do with huge horsepower, or whether it's a BBC or SBC. It's more about Factory/Dealer built specialty cars here. On other sites you'll find other SUPERCARS, such as Ferraris, Lambos, Maseratis, etc. It just depends on where you are.
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it is a very loaded question actually. as belair62 stated by the website description its dedicated to the CHEVROLET dealer built supercar and COPO cars. however, a 69 Hurst SC/rambler is a dealer built racecar specifically designed to compete in F Stock dragracing. and the SC in SC/rambler stands for Super Car. i am to young to know when exactly the term Super Car was placed on dealer installed and factory prepared automobiles, but i would be just plain lying to you if i said this was only a Chevy thing. [/ QUOTE ] No one said Supercar were "only a Chevy thing". However this sites original intent was: Dedicated to the promotion and preservation of the Chevrolet dealer built Supercars and COPO cars. All featured Supercars are Chevrolets https://www.yenko.net/features/featurecars.htm
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The definition of a "Supercar". I see them as factory or dealer prepped high horsepower, low production muscle cars. Produced by many manufacturers. Not just Chevrolet.
That defintion differs from the Yenko/Copo Supercars focused on this site. ![]() Patrick |
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Like most things, why get caught up in rigid "rules". Although this site started as a chevrolet COPO and Dealer Site (at least when I started coming here) that was mostly camaro's and chevelles, it has become so much more. I remember when Deuce's became all the rage. Then came the discussions about the Deuce being a "supercar", but only a 350 car. That went on for a while. Finally, my 70 Z28 COPO was discussed. It is a COPO, but the COPO option was a spoiler package. How would that compare to a non "supercar" L78?
I say let's just enjoy em for what they are, and a 427 vette sure is a "super" car if it's not a "supercar". ![]() Rich
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