ThE ** RAREST** C.O.P.O. Car .

[Astock]

Sorry, no.

[1971ls6]

Chuck you are wrong, they know exactly every ZL1 made

[William]

L72 COPO production was buried in the Tailfins & Bowties data. The data was obtained directly from Chevrolet in the ‘80s and reprinted in the book. All of the oft-repeated ’69 Camaro production numbers-3,675 Z11s, 20,302 Z/28s-came from this data.

The data lists 1969 Camaro production by engine size; 230, 250, 327 et cetera. No 427 engine is listed but the figures total 243,085, same as 1969 production. COPO 9560 [ZL1] & 9561 [L72] build records always list L78 for some reason but not Z27 [Camaro SS].

Ergo, both COPO 427 options are included in the L78 totals.

The L48 [300/350] was the standard Camaro SS engine; 22,339 built. Camaro SS optional 396 engines; 13,659 built. Data shows 34,932 Camaro SS produced. Adding L48 and 396 totals, 22,339 + 13,659 = 35,998.

That’s 1,066 more than Camaro SS.

There were 69 COPO 9560 Camaros built; 1,066 – 69 = 997 COPO 9561 cars.

That means the L78 total of 4,889 is inflated. Actual L78 production would be 3,823.

[69LM1]

Originally Posted by William

L72 COPO production was buried in the Tailfins & Bowties data. The data was obtained directly from Chevrolet in the ‘80s and reprinted in the book. All of the oft-repeated ’69 Camaro production numbers-3,675 Z11s, 20,302 Z/28s-came from this data.

The data lists 1969 Camaro production by engine size; 230, 250, 327 et cetera. No 427 engine is listed but the figures total 243,085, same as 1969 production. COPO 9560 [ZL1] & 9561 [L72] build records always list L78 for some reason but not Z27 [Camaro SS].

Ergo, both COPO 427 options are included in the L78 totals.

The L48 [300/350] was the standard Camaro SS engine; 22,339 built. Camaro SS optional 396 engines; 13,659 built. Data shows 34,932 Camaro SS produced. Adding L48 and 396 totals, 22,339 + 13,659 = 35,998.

That’s 1,066 more than Camaro SS.

There were 69 COPO 9560 Camaros built; 1,066 – 69 = 997 COPO 9561 cars.

That means the L78 total of 4,889 is inflated. Actual L78 production would be 3,823.

Where do the L89 cars fit into that? Under the L78?

What about LM1 cars?

Just thinking out loud.

/R

[William]

L89 was not an engine option. It was an aluminum cylinder head option that required ordering the L78 engine. Factory docs for those cars always list both. The L78 total includes the 311 L89 cars.

LM1s are not COPOs, it was an RPO. Not rare, 10,406 built in the 4 months of availability. It was odd in that it required an optional transmission; the MC1 HD 3-speed was the cheapest at $79 and was dropped as an option at the same time.

[69LM1]

Originally Posted by William

L89 was not an engine option. It was an aluminum cylinder head option that required ordering the L78 engine. Factory docs for those cars always list both. The L78 total includes the 311 L89 cars.

LM1s are not COPOs, it was an RPO. Not rare, 10,406 built in the 4 months of availability. It was odd in that it required an optional transmission; the MC1 HD 3-speed was the cheapest at $79 and was dropped as an option at the same time.

I was aware that both are RPO's, I was wondering where they fit in the production numbers you gave. Ie, the L89's bundled with the L78, along with the COPO's if I understand you correctly.

The LM1' were bundled where? In the L65 (350),L48 (ss) or L30 (327)?

Just trying to follow the thought process.

Thanks,

/R

[William]

This would be a 'rare' triple COPO. Supposedly ordered out of Courtesy Chev, Sebring, OH. The hood stripe was a single Z/28 style stripe down the center of the hood and upper grille panel.

A ZL2 SS is also known to have the COPO stripe.

[Charley Lillard]

[QUOTE=William;1452996]This would be a 'rare' triple COPO. Supposedly ordered out of Courtesy Chev, Sebring, OH. The hood stripe was a single Z/28 style stripe down the center of the hood and upper grille panel.

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William .....does the car exist ?

[William]

[QUOTE=Charley Lillard;1453115]

Originally Posted by William

This would be a 'rare' triple COPO. Supposedly ordered out of Courtesy Chev, Sebring, OH. The hood stripe was a single Z/28 style stripe down the center of the hood and upper grille panel.

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William .....does the car exist ?

I got that WS from the original owner years ago, not very conversant otherwise. He believed it became a full-time race car and was heavily modified last he knew. I didn't get a VIN. Could still exist.

The COPO striping was just like the Z/28, extending to the leading edge of the upper grille panel. This is from an ancient US Camaro Club ad. The owner of the car was looking for others.

I'm sorry Charlie. It just occurred to me you won't be able to sleep until you find one!

[William]

Distinct options were tallied individually; then summed up elsewhere in the listing. There were 59,643 '69 Camaros built with 350 engines: 10,406 LM1, 22,339 L48, 26,898 L65.

Back in the day a HS bud had a new '69 Nova LM1/3-speed; another had a 383/auto/3.55 Road Runner. The Nova would put a fender on him nearly all the way down the strip. The 'runner would win but not by much. That Nova surprised more than a few people.