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Old 07-09-2020, 01:46 AM
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You would have to look at each state's title laws. For instance, Oklahoma issues 8 different kinds of titles for motor vehicles. One of the 8 is for rebody:

1. Original title for any motor vehicle which is not a remanufactured, salvage, unrecovered-theft, rebuilt, rebodied or junked vehicle;
2. Salvage title for any motor vehicle which is a salvage vehicle or is specified as a salvage vehicle or the equivalent thereof on a certificate of title from another state;
3. Rebuilt title for any motor vehicle which is a rebuilt vehicle;
4. Junked title for any motor vehicle which is a junked vehicle or is specified as a junked vehicle or the equivalent thereof on a certificate of title from another state;
5. Classic title for any motor vehicle, except a junked vehicle, which is twenty-five (25) model years or older;
6. Remanufactured title for any vehicle which is a remanufactured vehicle;
7. Unrecovered-theft title for any motor vehicle which has been stolen and not recovered; and
8. Rebodied title for any motor vehicle which is a rebodied vehicle.

https://casetext.com/statute/oklahom...onuse-or-theft
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Old 07-22-2020, 12:41 AM
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After 51 years, the earliest documented ZL2 builds remain the same-Dec 27 @ Van Nuys Dec 30 @ Norwood.

The letter to dealers notifying them of the option was dated November 25, 1968.
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AIM dates are not relevant. Those dates are just paperwork dates and are not indicative of the plant.
http://www.camaros.org/AIM.shtml#changes
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Old 07-30-2020, 02:12 PM
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The date 1-21-69 in AIM match my Cars 01B and 01C.
The hole for relay is not in the same place on the firewalls.
Now you will say that anything could happen to 50 year old cars that anyone could drill a hole in the Firewall during those years.
But there are Crayon Arrows that point to those holes so the Arrows must be made before the car got Painted
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I'm not sure I understand your point of view.

If your cars have build dates of 01B and 01C then it's absolutely possible they could have been originally equipped with ZL2.

As William stated and is widely accepted, the first cars built with ZL2 at either plant is after Christmas of 68.

Are you concerned your relay is maybe off a pinch from the accepted location?
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Old 07-30-2020, 05:26 PM
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No, I read that Kurt Sonnen attached from CRG.
It says that the date in AIM does not match when revisions were made at the factory.
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Okay gotchya, those dates do make things confusing.
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Dave Beem's 01B Yenko (Bill Hunter's) has a hood dated 53.

Regarding his ZL2 Z28 built in LOS... I believe the TT shows 12C but am not sure what the hood date is dated. (If I am not mistaken it was generally recognized as the first DOCUMENTED cowl hood car built)
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Just for more interesting data points, my 12D Norwood Z, all of it's sheetmetal dates are 51, yet it's about 400 serial numbers past the first known ZL2 Camaro built which is 569358, I believe the first ZL1 Camaro.

Wouldn't be a stretch to assume it's sheet metal dates would be close to mine, which could make the earliest ZL2 hood date at Norwood a 51.
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