Whereabouts of Grumpy Jenkin's Camaro Toy IV

[Pro Stock John]

Carmen got back to me today. He clarified the ownership history of the car and I've amended that in the first post.

Grumpy > Heavy / Carmen > in between guy > Joe Algieri.

I had chatted a bit with Joe and I covered some stuff with him a week ago. Here is a quick rundown of points:
-He bought from someone in between.
-He removed the hideway nose off the car (at this point I don't think it included the fenders), and sold it to someone in NJ. It was acid dipped and in rough shape. He ran Modified Production so he ran a regular headlight nose because the headlight had to work. He did not want to add the weight but had to.
-Has pictured from when he was stripping off the paint (what color I wonder), and the Grumpy letter was underneath other paint.
-He stripped the chrome off the bumpers and painted them.
-He shaved the rear back up lights.
-He removed the gas filler neck.

[Pro Stock John]

Do you know who I would like to meet as a result of this research?

Carmine Rotonda. Guy is super cool.

Thank you again Mr. Rotonda for answering my final round of questions.

Me: What color changes did IV go through when you guys had it?

Carmine: Got the car from Grump it was white. Painted it orange and it stayed that way for a couple of months. Then he painted it with his green color scheme. Most of the time it was green.

Me: Settle the controversy once and for all, black painted top? Vinyl top?

Carmine: Black vinyl top.


So right from the man himself.

[PeteLeathersac]

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Here’s a batch of Toy 1V pics I had saved, sorry some are a bit blurry but the more the better as any view may be useful trying to ID something specific later.
Best of luck back-tracking, sounds like some good leads also very cool you’ve hooked up w/ Carm Rotonda!

~ Pete

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[luzl78]

In the pics of grumpy holding the box of parts and the trophy he looks like a short, young Bruce Willis.

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[JoeC]

Heavy's orange car has the belt reveal molding that came on the 68 RS Camaros.

Toy IV had that molding even when Bill ran it in Pro Stock.

The white Heavy car does not have it.

That doesn't prove anything but that is odd to have the RS belt reveal molding on a race car.

[dykstra]

These pics are AWESOME!!!!

[napa68]

Originally Posted by dykstra

These pics are AWESOME!!!!

No doubt!!

[Carleen]

This is the 1969 Toy VI