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Re: Commercial parts tumbler
aircraft parts suppliers and manufactures use tumblers a lot.....
parts need to be clean first to get a nice finish......
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Re: Commercial parts tumbler
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> This investment is an absolute 'no-brainer' since the payback is likely in months vs years... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] </div></div>
Nope, more like one week if I do the math and based on the number of labor hours a week! I have been procrastinating for too long and partially due to a lack of room but with as many cars as we have in the shop I need to raise productivity and lessen the number of days a week I work (currently 7). The restoration tech I hired last year has been a Godsend so now I need to start streamlining the rest of the shop not too mention kick Ann's butt a little. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] The showroom is unfortunately being packed up and sold off as we need the room. Tired of having cars stored all over the place including taking up my 3 car garage!
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Rick Nelson Musclecar Restoration and Design, Inc www.musclecarrestorationanddesign.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62r-6vgk2_8 specializing in (only real) LS6 Chevelle restorations |
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Re: Commercial parts tumbler
look into bake abrading.....its a machine that warms the part, then its shot with micro stainless beads...it makes alum look "right" and cast iron looks NOS..i have a guy i use and i run everything i can thru him but bolts the finish is incredible..for a resto shop...it can be profitable...i use him, for the cost thing..he charges me 35 bux a load and will load the machine to capacity..even tumbling, cost me time..
you load them on a big cartridge and a small crane moves it from one heat vat to the blaster vat and it rotates automatically etc.....its amazing...i will get some pics of the finish on alum he does exhaust manifolds..clutch pedal. bumper brackets, intakes, blocks, heads, brackets pulley's, anything i bring him..and he doesnt advertise it..i think hes missing the boat..resto guys would flock to him..maybe he doesnt want that work either..i dunno it doesnt change the surface either..no fuzzy looking metal..and every mark, machining mark stamp etc survives..best piece of machinery for a resto business for surface prep there could be..
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Re: Commercial parts tumbler
I vibratory tumbler really only puts a finish on items, and deburrs. Paint takes forever to come off, grease and oil will come off in time. I like to glass bead, then tumble, on anything "dirty". Carbon steel, aluminium,and some castings come out nice. Stainless is a bit of a different story, takes a bit longer with less results. Machined finishes will still need to be taped, and getting the media out can be a pain at times, it gets stuck in holes and between fins...Alternator cases are fun.
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Re: Commercial parts tumbler
If I had the room, I would have LOVED something like that. I just spent the last 3 weeks cleaning and prepping all the front end and engine hardware for my '62 to have it ready for replating. Endless hours between degeasing, wire-wheeling, bead blasting, rinsing, on & on.
Almost done. 31 J nuts to go. As John Lennon said, "My fingers have blisters on them" Verne |
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Re: Commercial parts tumbler
My conclusion is that two types of machine are required.....(I would love to see detailed pics
of Mark's abrading process) 1) Shotpeening/Wheelabrator 2) Vibratory Tumbler with media to be determined
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Re: Commercial parts tumbler
Sounds interesting Mark. I look forward to seeing the pictures. Time to make a move and become more productive! I am old school and find it hard to make changes but with the current workload I need to start changing. Appreciate everyone's help.
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Rick Nelson Musclecar Restoration and Design, Inc www.musclecarrestorationanddesign.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62r-6vgk2_8 specializing in (only real) LS6 Chevelle restorations |
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Re: Commercial parts tumbler
i stopped by today, its a sunnen ampro shot blaster or oven and blaster...he paid $20k..heres one for 6k
http://www.jackschollerequipment.com/used-equipment.php http://www.farrisequipment.com/cleaning-equipment.html this is what i would have for sure if i ever went into the resto business..just running parts for friends would go along way to paying for it..if ya market it a little..but now what youd do..just what id do..blocks fit easy.. here is what my buddy has(not his)..2 pieces, not 3 he has an oven and a blaster..but it might be good to look into the tumbler too..i dont know what that is....you see the wheels etc..theres hardware that bolts the pieces to the wheel..or you wire it..its gas and 115 volt stuff..so no 3 phase needed.. http://www.allstates.com/ampro_clean...for_heads_.htm
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Re: Commercial parts tumbler
these intakes came off boats..they where horrible..had black gunk on them and looked like they came off the bottom of a lake..couldnt tell they where alu,,one pontiac the other olds..i steal these for 50 or so..clean them and can get 75-80% of new..
look at the sheen...and the look..NOT FUZZY..it also closes the pores and becomes more oil/stain resistant... heres my laboratory vibrator thingy..i used to bungee the cheap plastic barrel on it..it gave me 2 options im trying to figure out what to put this in..
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Re: Commercial parts tumbler
Decisions, decisions. I need more room!
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Rick Nelson Musclecar Restoration and Design, Inc www.musclecarrestorationanddesign.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62r-6vgk2_8 specializing in (only real) LS6 Chevelle restorations |
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