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Well said Steve.
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I agree with prototype. This sentence can be interpreted two ways.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A GM factory assembled body shell was used to correct the extensive body modifications performed during this cars long term drag race history. </div></div>
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With all due respect to the owner of this car, besides the "mincing of words" in the description about the re-body, my opinion is that a completely rebodied ZL-1 is NOT "one of the finest in existence".
I am glad somone else here has the courage to state thier opinion here. The description of this car fits more exactly like my old ZL-1 that I sold, car 34. Where all salvagable parts of the original car were kept intact when restored. In this case the easy way out was taken to restore this car. Simply stated, a rebody !! And thanks to SYC for allowing all respectful opinions. And to the owner..a very beautiful car and restoration !!! Good luck with the sale. |
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Prototype is correct. The car is a rebody as per Floyd Garrett yet it is not disclosed anywhere unless you want you hang your hat on "A GM factory assembled body shell was used to correct the extensive body modifications performed during this cars long term drag race history". The only time I see George say "rebody" is when on the other thread here his initial post says it is NOT a rebody. The language used could mean that 1/4 panels etc were sourced etc.
Kim..Do you consider it one of the best ZL1's like advertized knowing it is a rebody ? If your best friend came to you looking for a ZL1 and showed you the Barrett-Jackson ad would you assume he was aware it was rebodied based on the language used ? Would you suggest he buy # 9 or would you tell him to look for one that is not rebodied. I don't mind rebody as long as it is disclosed. My opinion is anybody reading that language as rebody is reading thru rose color sunglasses.
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Funny that bring that up Chas. One of my best friends sold a ZL-1 reboded car 5 years ago for 90,000.00. That car then sold at BJ. And was never said it was a rebody until just before it was sold. It brought 290,000.00 We didn't agee about that car. Again Fred someone new just getting into the car hobby doesn't buy a ZL-1.
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I understand that George wants to get as much as he can for the car. I agree with Prototype. This part of the description is vague. "A GM factory assembled body shell was used to correct the extensive body modifications performed during this cars long term drag race history." Does this mean that the entire shell was used or that this shell was used for pieces and parts for replacing or rebuilding the modifications to the existing shell? They guys on here that read the original thread know but not everyone that will be at the auction knows about this site. JMO
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George - very strong opinions on this site - the higher the $$, the stronger the opinions get! In your previous thread concerning this car, it seems like you were going to investigate exactly where the donor body was mated to original sheet metal (if anywhere) and then let the community know your findings. This information would help folks understand if this car fits their definition of a rebody (lots of opinions on that subject).
Anyway - that's my 2 cents. It clearly is a beautiful restoration and IMO a car that definitely should have been saved. Best of luck at the auction! |
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Commendations to Charlie, he didnt take the easy road that many sites take when a car up for discussion is a members ,he called it exactly the way he saw it . Very refreshing.
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That description is a lawsuit waiting to happen! It can be taken alot of ways in my opinion and clearly doesn't state anywhere its a re-body and any good lawyer would tear that description to shreds. Who ever has enough money to buy it Im sure has enough money for a lawyer if he thought he was buying "one the best".
Not a snowballs chance in hell I'd sell with that description because once the buyer finds out the whole story and gets lawyers involved the only ones that will be smiling when its all said and done is the Lawyers and Barrett Jackson. The seller will get caught up paying both buyer and seller fees to Barrett and get his car back plus have lawyer bills on top of it! Not my car and I have no interest in it, so I don't care either way but as one car guy looking out for another Id seriously consider changing the description to save you some grief down the road.
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A rebodied car should never exclude those words when it comes up for sale. The current owner would not have been surprised when he learned it, there would never be a reason for finger pointing, and would not lead to harsh words down the line on this site or in any courtroom. The most current description of #9 clouds the fact that it is a rebody. Plain and simple!! And yes, I have been told I live in a fantasy world where people are honest and don't let money taint their judgment.
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