How fast was a Motion Camaro

[55chevy]

[ QUOTE ]
How fast (top speed) has anyone here gone in their muscle car?

[/ QUOTE ]

I had the '04 GTO up to 152mph in 5th gear with some tach and another gear to go! Had to slow it down in a hurry due to an upcoming bend in the road. Figured that was fast enough for me and didn't try again before I got rid of the car. I hear the new GTO's are electronically limited to 160 mph though. I'd like to see one with the governor turned off.

[427TJ]

Okay, I dug up an original ad for the '68 Phase III Camaro. (See attached.) Joel Rosen guaranteed that the car would "run 120 mph in 11.50 seconds or better."

I cropped the ad so the performance claims can be read.

[427TJ]

This performance table is from the January 1969 Rodder and Super/Stock magazine road test of the '68 Motion Phase III Camaro. On the L70x15 street tires (rear) they did a best of 12.00 at 114.5, through the mufflers, but the car would barely hook up. With open headers, no air cleaner, a set of "M&H B-140 9.5-14 wrinkle walls" and Joel Rosen himself driving, the car got down to a best time of 11.48 at 125.

[jfkheat]

The original question was not asking for 1/4 mile times and speeds. Drag racing times for these cars are well documented. He wants to know how fast the cars will go on an open road. Are they capable of 170 0r 180 mph? Is there any record of a Motion car running at Bonneville Salt Flats?
James

[427TJ]

[ QUOTE ]
The original question was not asking for 1/4 mile times and speeds.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh. Well, I suppose of you put really low (numerically) gears in it and tall rear tires then have a push truck get it up to 60 or so and then open it up, I suppose a 427 Motion-style Camaro could hit 200 or so. First-gens have been run at Bonneville and probably topped 200. Kind of an odd question, really. I suppose if you dropped a Motion Camaro out of a C-130 at 20,000 feet it might do better than 200 at some point in the fall.

[Chevy454]

[ QUOTE ]
I suppose if you dropped a Motion Camaro out of a C-130 at 20,000 feet it might do better than 200 at some point in the fall.

[/ QUOTE ]

[insert terminal velocity formula here]

[GMH454]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
The original question was not asking for 1/4 mile times and speeds.

[/ QUOTE ]

Kind of an odd question, really.

[/ QUOTE ]

Actually Brock Yates documented top end running on the Detroit Freeways back in a R & T or C & d piece in around 66 or 67. From the old Cars mags I beleive top end was done around New York, Motion Cars were not made to compete in set drag classes but to run the street. Hence the question. Answer is if it happened no-one here knows or is not sharing.

The comparision came from my car which had its driveline based on a Motion car when things like Hone'e were available.
These cars had aerodynamics like bricks, so math formulas are meaningless.
Ever stuck your arm out the window at 130mph (and gone back to pick it up )
As I said top end running was done, it usually does not look as dangerous as it is when you are travelling straight and you're behind the wheel.

[55chevy]

GMH454, Do you have any pics of that Holden? Just wondering what it looks like. Sounds like a mean ride.

[Motion Camaro]

<font color="blue">Here is the original ad.


The guy that owned mine said he changed a couple of things &amp; had it running 10:30's in 1970.

I also had a freind with a 1970 Phase III 'Vette.
That car ran mis 11's &amp; with the Hone OD could break 200mph topped out!
Very Fast, Very Scary (we were 17)</font>

[Seattle Sam]

You know the terminal speed would have been dependent on the final drive ratio. I'm sure 600 HP would make a 69 Camaro plenty fast with a 3.08 gear...

In September of 1996 I was at 134 mph and accelerating in the middle of Montana in our Brickyard 400 car (97 Camaro Z28 convertible) when my lovely wife woke up...needless to say we slowed right down!

On another trip through Montana in August of 2001, my friend Don in his 2000 Z28 convertible used the cruise control to bump the speed up to 146. This with the top down and two big guys (and our luggage) in the car.

Not bad for two factory stock convertibles!

-Sam