Original motor vs. replacement

[Xplantdad]

Don, Your car is beautiful...

[Alss]

Here is my .02 as well. My COPO does not have its original motor and I am almost glad that it doesn't. In todays market with all the " SH%#TY" people restamping motors to "make" a numbers matching car, and with the type of use these cars were intened for, flags always wave when a car states it has the "original numbers matching motor" I feel My CE block is acceptable for these cars as they were raced pretty hard. It helps that I have build sheets, POP imprints, the warranty repair order for the motor and other docs to back the car up. Does it hurt the value?? it may but not a substantial amount..the car is what it is and no one can change that.

ALbert

[ohhawk]

I think njsteve and Rick H have summed it up well and the market prices have been reflecting this for quite some time. Kind of a sliding scale down with docs AND matching #'s being the top combination.

Don, did you see Legendary Motor Co. sold their version of your car recently?

[ANDY M]

Albert, I'm glad that you brought up the "driver" vs "Show Car" issue. My COPO has a CE motor, replacement M-21, but original BE rear end. I have no history beyond the previous owner, and the NICB that says it was shipped to Berger 6/2/69. Since I tell everybody who looks at the car that it's incorrect and incomplete, I get a lot less static.
If I were to put the car up for sale, IMHO, that would change dramatically. I drive it about once a week to a cruise in, but it's not any more than a #3 car on a good day.
You guys may have seen the pictures of it posted here, where I refered to it as a 20 footer. Point is, if you want a trailer queen, go for it. If you want a driver, go for it. It's not about the money until it goes on sale, or if you're in the market.
Andy

[69LM1]

Well said Andy!


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Albert, I'm glad that you brought up the "driver" vs "Show Car" issue. My COPO has a CE motor, replacement M-21, but original BE rear end. I have no history beyond the previous owner, and the NICB that says it was shipped to Berger 6/2/69. Since I tell everybody who looks at the car that it's incorrect and incomplete, I get a lot less static.
If I were to put the car up for sale, IMHO, that would change dramatically. I drive it about once a week to a cruise in, but it's not any more than a #3 car on a good day.
You guys may have seen the pictures of it posted here, where I refered to it as a 20 footer. Point is, if you want a trailer queen, go for it. If you want a driver, go for it. It's not about the money until it goes on sale, or if you're in the market.
Andy

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[Don_Lightfoot]

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Don, did you see Legendary Motor Co. sold their version of your car recently?

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Didn't know that Dick, they had that car for quite a while. Wonder what it went for?????

[Verne_Frantz]

Craig S.,

The answer to your question is very simple.

Imagine TWO IDENTICAL cars.......one with it's original engine, the other with a replacement. It doesn't matter whether they are '68 Baldwin-Motion Phase III Camaros, Hemi Cuda convertibles, or '49 Nashs. One one with it's original engine will always be worth more.

Of course, there will be cases where due to different equipment or documentation between 2 cars, the one with the replacement engine may be worth more.....but to answer your original question, I think we (you) need to consider IDENTICAL cars in every aspect other than the engine....

[Mr70]

You had me,right until you brought up the 49 Nash.

[AutoInsane]

Good point Verne but that begs the question how much less should a car be worth with the CE block?

I had signed a contract to buy an Orange 70 1/2 Camaro 396/375 from Legendary Motor Cars a few years back. It was represented as numbers matching. (the price was $24,000) I subsequently found out it was a CE block and walked away from the deal. I am still kicking myself buying that car. I was just unsure as to the value with the CE block.

I would think in a more rare and sought after vehicle the numbers matching would matter less. Who here would pass at a Yenko with a CE block and would it really be worth that much less especially in today's market of guys tripping over one another to bid on cars?

[Verne_Frantz]

Autoinsane,
How much less? Only the buyer can determine that. An impossible question to answer and apply to all cars.
Certainly, the Yenko with the CE block you mentioned would command a very high price, but again, what if there was an IDENTICAL Yenko next to it but with it's original block?