Toronto Auction

[twertsy]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tracker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MEL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Absolutely beautiful COPO Camaro,FANTASTIC restoration by owner,, pretty good money, someone got a bargin considering all the negative press this COPO got from a bunch of jealous members on this site. I hope we see this car again and the price is even higher LOL. </div></div>

Got a horse in this race do ya? </div></div>

Can certainly see the great white north from 14303......

[BJCHEV396]

Just wondering what a ZL1 clone restored to this Camaro's standards would be worth if it was advertised as a recreation?

[MEL]

[quote=BJCHEV396]Just wondering what a ZL1 clone restored to this Camaro's standards would be worth if it was advertised as a recreation? To answer your query about value I located my latest issue of Likehelle Collector Car Value Guide and a true original COPO in #1 condition would be worth around $500K, a clone would be around $135K and a recreation around $90K. This is assuming the clone and recreation COPO's would have a very strong oral history and lots of NON digital photos.

[1969L78Nova]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MEL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=BJCHEV396]Just wondering what a ZL1 clone restored to this Camaro's standards would be worth if it was advertised as a recreation? To answer your query about value I located my latest issue of Likehelle Collector Car Value Guide and a true original COPO in #1 condition would be worth around $500K, a clone would be around $135K and a recreation around $90K. This is assuming the clone and recreation COPO's would have a very strong oral history and lots of NON digital photos. </div></div>

with buyers premium and taxes the buyer paid over $200K CDN for this Camaro.

[iluv69s]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MEL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=BJCHEV396] a clone would be around $135K and a recreation around $90K. </div></div>

what's the difference?

[iluv69s]

i was reading a while ago about the old race cars, etc..maybe it's the vette guys

(just assuming if this car were not the real deal)would this be considered an 'air car' ??

can anyone explain the differences on how they classify the cars??..and what category this car falls in...

[ZiggyL78]

I'm not sure.I wonder what a tribute car is worth

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MEL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=BJCHEV396] a clone would be around $135K and a recreation around $90K. </div></div>

what's the difference? </div></div>

[bergy]

Mel - can you stop calling this car a COPO?
An &quot;air car&quot; is just what the name implies - it is a car that appeared out of thin air. It is a term that is commonly used in the AC Cobra community where cars have sometimes &quot;appeared&quot; with no real ownership history. Cars with ownership history are called &quot;continuous history cars&quot; (CHC). It is uncommon, but not rare, to have two AC Cobras with the same VIN (due to legitimate reasons like previous damage history - damaged frame migrated to one car and the subsequently found damaged body went to another car - or even extreme cases of outright fraud). In such instances - the car with ownership history generally prevails. the other car is often an &quot;air car&quot;. The legitimacy rationale revolves around the intent of the owner at the time of damage &amp; rebuild - the car that survived with the titled owner being the continuous history car. Cars that just &quot;appear&quot; with no ownership history are &quot;air cars&quot; until their provenance has been determined.
There's probably a lot more that an attorney could add, but the message is clear - continuous ownership history is extremely important.

[quik9r]

There was a &quot;recreation ZL-1&quot; at toronto 540 aluminium block, eddy heads, car was complete do over with the look but aftemarket wheels etc., stalled at 52K no sale.

Quik9r

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: quik9r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There was a &quot;recreation ZL-1&quot; at toronto 540 aluminium block, eddy heads, car was complete do over with the look but aftemarket wheels etc., stalled at 52K no sale.

Quik9r </div></div>

So there were 2 ZL-1 clones/recreations at the auction?
James