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Old 11-26-2011, 04:10 PM
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Norm...The Chevrolet ZL1 is not 750 hp. You are probably mistaking the SLP conversion ZL1 for a Chevrolet build car but it isn't.
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Old 11-27-2011, 02:45 AM
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yes charley that is the car that I am thinking of
hate to say this but I have NERVER liked fords
allways was in to GM and mopars in my day
every ford I had was not the greatest
always had way to many problems
with them and at my age I want something that works
with out any problems
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:20 PM
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but the GT500 is still the hp KING Norm .. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] Like it or not. + its 100 lbs less the Camaro.. No contest. I was a GM guy all my life too..
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:44 PM
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They are all good cars some just have brand preferences. In the past Ford, GM amd Mopar all had their issues from time to time. The American automobile has come a long way. I will take one of each please. I drive Ford and Cat gave me a Chev truck..good truck zero issues. The competition is good keeps these manufacturers on their toes for our business. Lets just all hope the government does not put an end to these seriously high HP cars or start to taxes the crap out of them to keep them out of the hands of many. They are a good value when you consider the cost to add HP in the 60's yet retain reliability
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Old 11-28-2011, 10:23 PM
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I'm thinking of buying a 13 Mustang GT... it's no GT500 but I like the GT just fine. I was always a GM person for the most part though I like so many cars from various makers, but this would be my first Ford. I just think it has a timeless look currently and has plenty of hp for me on the street. I just worry about that gearbox.
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Old 11-29-2011, 02:24 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: carenthusiast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking of buying a 13 Mustang GT... it's no GT500 but I like the GT just fine. I was always a GM person for the most part though I like so many cars from various makers, but this would be my first Ford. I just think it has a timeless look currently and has plenty of hp for me on the street. I just worry about that gearbox. </div></div>

get the 6 speed automatic then. They are faster then the manual boxes anyway. I have a bud with an auto convertible 3.15 geared 5.0(the worst combo) and he got it to run 12.4 dead nuts stock and bolted on a blower and drag radials(otherwise 100% stock) and it ran 10.6 at Atco this weekend at the Ford vs. Buick race. Still gets 28 mpg on the highway. Amazing

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Old 11-29-2011, 09:42 PM
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Better be carefull A bone stock 5.0 and he put on a blower?????
The bottom end on the 5.0 WILL NOT take the stress and will let lose
At my buddys shop just the other day. Got in a mustang that some knucklehead hit a bone stock stang with a 5.0 with a 100 shot of nos and the crank just snaped right though the block
One thing is we can agree to disagree about the 5.0 fords
Never liked them never will

Also if you remember back in the 60s when the h/p war was on gm and Chrysler did NOT say what the Real h/p was on the cars back then There was a thing with the insurance companys whould not insure them or hit you in the pocket book
What I do not get is WHY is Ford jumping up and down with these numbers Insurance companys are not going to like this one
I would think they would be quite about it Oh well
Like I said we can agree to disagree
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Geez, we get it. You don't like Fords. Point made, but you're not going to convince the rest of us. As for the car at your buddy's shop, someone who knows how to tune goes a long way. The stock rotating assemblies aren't the best thing ever, but a competent tuner can fix a lot of problems. There's a reason John Mihovitz at Accufab can hit a 13:1 compression modular with 50+ p.s.i. in a stock block and make it live (at close to 3,000 horsepower).

As for the power rating, what makes you think Ford <span style="font-style: italic">isn't</span> downrating these cars. They've been doing it for years. You don't really think those 87-93 5.0s only made 225 horse at the flywheel, do you? They <span style="font-style: italic">average</span> 200 RWHP, and I've seen a few freaks make close to the full 225 rating at the wheels. Same goes for Terminators, Shelbys, and the new 5.0s. A new Mustang GT is a 450 flywheel car all day, every day.

I'll also add that playing games with the power ratings in the 60s didn't fool anybody, and it won't this time, either. Good Lord, can't we just enjoy it while it does last, instead of wasting time complaining?
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Old 11-30-2011, 05:24 AM
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Old 11-30-2011, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: 2013 GT500 most powerful OEM v8 in the WORLD

Norm, you obviously know little about the 5.0. Its a VERY strong engine and can take 650 hp with stock internals. Easy. Its done all the time. Forged crank, good rods are in there.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Norm reynolds</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Better be carefull A bone stock 5.0 and he put on a blower?????
The bottom end on the 5.0 WILL NOT take the stress and will let lose
At my buddys shop just the other day. Got in a mustang that some knucklehead hit a bone stock stang with a 5.0 with a 100 shot of nos and the crank just snaped right though the block
One thing is we can agree to disagree about the 5.0 fords
Never liked them never will

Also if you remember back in the 60s when the h/p war was on gm and Chrysler did NOT say what the Real h/p was on the cars back then There was a thing with the insurance companys whould not insure them or hit you in the pocket book
What I do not get is WHY is Ford jumping up and down with these numbers Insurance companys are not going to like this one
I would think they would be quite about it Oh well
Like I said we can agree to disagree
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