L72 `69 Camaro NHRA stockers - Page 3

Chevy454 · #21 12-23-2003, 01:31 AM

I asked Keenan about the stick/auto thing, and he said the 396 cars just can't pull the auto like the 427 cars can, but that the higher revving 396 cars LOVE the stick. That's what I find absolutely fascinating about the "stock" classes...so many different ways to go fast!

I would LOVE to try and field a car, but I'm no where NEAR smart enough to even get close to the index, much less be semi-competitive. Those guys have got it down to a fine art.

larry_csa · #22 12-23-2003, 03:11 AM

OK were back.With out checking with me, NHRA went and changed the rules. As of 2003 as long as the car has the correct motor and weights right the shipping weight does not matter anymore. ( 30 years worth of learning down the tube) In years gone by a Stick car was 15lbs too light to make C . In shipping weight a stick is 15lbs lighter than a auto. SC69SAM wins the door prize of the day. Broadbent use to be in E with a 302 him and that other guy McNishe [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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I still find it hard to give up 31CID in an A car.
A with 396= 390X8= 3120 + 170 (driver) = 3290
A with 427= 425X8= 3400 + 170 (driver) = 3570
280 diff in weight. O Well
Wish I could afford a Hettler motor, But I do everything my self, motors and rearends. TCI does the trans. In the past it was racer aganist racer. Now it's money vers Money
Rob Sent you some Pic to day E-mail me when you get them
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**Salvatore** · #23 12-23-2003, 11:39 PM

I think you are wrong about being competitive. You can be competitive because you are a drag racer and can definetly run on the index with a little practice and time. Most of these cars run on their own dial-in and only have to run close to their record when they are in class eliminations. You basically dial your own ET. NHRA is not even running class eliminations at every event anymore. As good as you are on the dial-in is really what it takes. If you run 10.50's in A/S or A/SA you could have alot of fun and be competitive. I think a small block is around $8,500 to $9,500 and a big block is around $12,500 to $13,000. Probably at this time of the year you can find some of these cars for sale and get a pretty good deal. $20,000 would probably buy a competitive stocker. I would not build one I would probably buy one ready to go. Has to be cheaper and the bugs worked out already. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/

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Kim_Howie · #24 12-24-2003, 01:39 PM

Sam is right we run in what we bracket mode until we run up against a car in our same class thens it's FULL bore mode. A lot of things change in that mode [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

RPZ28 · #25 12-24-2003, 02:10 PM

Kim, do you guy's use some type of thottle stop to go from full bore during eliminations, and reset again for dial in times.
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Kim_Howie · #26 12-24-2003, 02:18 PM

If I told you I would have to kill you! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif[/img] Just kidden We don't use any type of stop. We change tires ,fuel, drop some oil and other things [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

JLerum · #27 12-25-2003, 08:50 PM

Merry Christmas everyone!

I think that the L-78's need to really be spun hard to make them work. The way I understand it the 396/375 horse cars have a narrower torque band also. Their was an article in Super Stock Drag Ill on the Checkmate team before the mag disappeared and they talked about putting some really steep gears in their after market 4 speeds to really tune them for the RPM range they run.

It is amazing how much horsepower it takes to make up for weight, expecially if it is in the wrong place.

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**Salvatore** · #28 12-26-2003, 11:05 PM

DRIVE UM LIKE YOU HATE UM! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/

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RPZ28 · #29 12-29-2003, 01:17 AM

Kim, thanks for the info, I'll have to do more reserch on the subject. HAPPY NEWYEAR
Ron

Chevy454 · #30 12-31-2003, 04:15 AM

While we're on the subject of stockers...how about a picture of Larry's Camaro yankin' the wheels:

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