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Old 08-24-2006, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: 71 4 speed aqua W-30 hits 200K

Agreed, Colin, the GM a-body line is a tough combo to beat...

You mention the W cars...do the W31 cars get much love in todays market? I fell in love with Casey's while in Stanton...I thought it was a GREAT value when he let it go, but it seemed like folks just didn't jump on it like I thought they should?
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Old 08-24-2006, 11:31 PM
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Colin, I'm with you.....'drolds810' raises his bid 14 times - in a span of 9 minutes and 2 seconds - from $31K to $200K....with no one bidding against him
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Colin, I'm with you.....'drolds810' raises his bid 14 times - in a span of 9 minutes and 2 seconds - from $31K to $200K....with no one bidding against him

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Bill- all that COULD mean is that he set a very high max bid and until another bidder out bids him that other bidder's call sign will not show up. So, it only appears that he is bidding against noone.
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maybe a divorce thing???????
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Rediculous auction.I just sold a documented 1970 which was real nice for $32,000.I know where there is an all original #s matching documented 72 W30 for $70,000.Probably the nicest one any where and I thought that was too much.
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I don't think these cars are in the same performance league
to command those dollars. What do you guys think?


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Steve,
I think they are in the same performance leauge, no question. They just don't have the name recognition like a Yenko, for example. The W cars are reasonably rare and IMHO very undervalued in the big picture. I'd rather have a good W30 4 speed over a Hemi Cuda 4 speed, if they were both $1.00. The B/O/P cars just drive so much better than their competitors did. My black W30 is really nice to drive, even on bias ply tires. My Hemi car, bless its heart, tries to be a nice car but is still like driving a dump truck. If you had to have ONE car, I bet a lot of guys would pick a GS/442/GTO. But, I've been wrong before.

Now is the eBay car worth $200k? Not to me, it looks a little tired - I figured it for $75k the last time it ran.

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Colin,

I guess my position comes from the fact that I only ever
saw three of these things growing up. As you sort of
indicated, Camaros, Chevelles, Novas, Mustangs, Cudas were
the most popular cars. As a matter of fact, two of the
three W-30's belonged to executive level guys. I guess that
is where I developed the feeling that they were a "gentlemans"
performance car, and as such, not in the same league.

So you honestly think these cars are on a performance par
with the Yenko's & COPO's? Why didn't many of these cars
make it to the track and get national recognition as the
afore mentioned cars did? Was it their weight class or
something like that?

I will add one thing though. Probably the most remembered
advertisement from "back in the day" for me was one is which
a bikini clad woman was laying on a 442 hood ( on her belly )
nestled between the two scoops. You do the mental picture
from there...... Sure like to see that ad again!

Steve
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:27 PM
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I will add one thing though. Probably the most remembered
advertisement from "back in the day" for me was one is which
a bikini clad woman was laying on a 442 hood ( on her belly )
nestled between the two scoops. You do the mental picture
from there...... Sure like to see that ad again!

Steve

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I rememeber the ad, it was for Liquid Glass! Always liked the girl..er I mean car! Like some of the Buicks rolling around, a lot of 442's were loaded up with options, but the W-cars were strickly BIZNESS! You can only cut so much fat before you hit bone, but they took out as they could and still have the car perform. The carpet was without sound deadner, the 70-72 W-30 cars had aluminium intakes to reduce weight (I have talked with other people in the know, no performance gain over the stock cast intake, just lighter)In '70, a W-30 4-speed had a 328/328 cam and you could not get power brakes with that car. The w-cars had special heads and blueprinted motors. In the instance of the w-31 cars in '68, each of the motors were dyno'd before being sent out to the cars.

The cars were not cheap. My car with a/c came to the sum total of over $5K in '69. What was the cost of a BB Vette in '69? Anyway, Colin is right, the Olds market has always been a little slow/soft, but it seems there are some very rare cars coming out of the woodwork and bringing some big money. The '71 is nice, but $200K?
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: 71 4 speed aqua W-30 hits 200K

Our family bought an orange '72 442 new when I was 16, you can bet I was influential in that decision. My best friend won a '72 Hurst Olds on a bet with his father. The night before the election for class president, his father said that if you win the election, "I'll buy you a Hurst Olds". He wasn't even running for office and word spread through the school like wildfire and he won. We'd park our two Olds muscle cars next to each other. I'm always looking for a '71 or '72 W-30. Every time I see a '72 HO with a sunroof, I look to see if it is optioned out like his.
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Old 08-25-2006, 06:05 PM
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Bill- all that COULD mean is that he set a very high max bid and until another bidder out bids him that other bidder's call sign will not show up. So, it only appears that he is bidding against noone.

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Sam, that's not how I know eBay bidding to work If 'drolds810' had made one bid of $200K, his bidder ID would show up only one time. As other people would bid lesser amounts, their bids would show up with their bidder ID.
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Bill- all that COULD mean is that he set a very high max bid and until another bidder out bids him that other bidder's call sign will not show up. So, it only appears that he is bidding against noone.

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Sam, that's not how I know eBay bidding to work If 'drolds810' had made one bid of $200K, his bidder ID would show up only one time. As other people would bid lesser amounts, their bids would show up with their bidder ID.

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Bill, it looks like that bidder used one of the sniping programs to place his bids for him. You put in your top $ amount and it will consistantly increase your bid until it reaches your max $ or you are the high bidder. I still don't think those are real buyers though.
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