Z/28 Paint Application ??? - 76 76 Daytona Yellow

[rlw68]

Hey Graeme - I was at the shop yesterday. It's about 3 weeks into the project now. They did a lot of the disassembly also like the subframe, motor, glass, etc. That was a good decision for me. The body is on the rotisserie getting some small issues fixed. I"m having them do two hoods. The flat hood iss correct for the car and will come home wearing it. The cowl hood was added by the original owner.

[70 copo]

I have been asked to comment further on this thread so I will offer the following:

Having watched this thread with interest from the start, the reality of the specific process used at Norwood had pretty significant operational variations from other plants especially those that were flat plant designs with a GMAD transition complete - specifically Lordstown and Van Nuys.

Most all of the variations under discussion here can be explained through a specific and detailed description of the assembly process that was specific to Norwood.

That's about all I have to say because to say more will expose the confirmation bias present within a number of posts made already- and the outcome will likely just end up in another brawl with zero value for any of us.

I do agree with one comment specifically. If you restore your car as you found it then you will NEVER be wrong.

[R68GTO]

I do agree with one comment specifically. If you restore your car as you found it then you will NEVER be wrong.

I am trying my very best to do that as I do find quite a bit of conflicting info depending on source.

[NorCam]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

I do agree with one comment specifically. If you restore your car as you found it then you will NEVER be wrong.

Very well stated Sir.

I have read your Norwood related posts in the past and do hold them in high regard. I hope my earlier posts didn't come off sounding biased as that was really not my intention. I am still new to many of the details in how the plants did things and as always, I strive to learn as much as possible about the processes.

Being an original paint car, I had a lengthy discussion with my painter earlier this week. We reviewed exactly how it was painted at the factory and were in the midst of formulating a plan when he brought up the past cars he has painted for me and just how happy I was with the clean look that came from that process? (example below)



That conversation now has me questioning the plan for the car at hand. It no longer has it's original drive line, is taking on a new look when it's done (day 2 performance inspired) and much of what will be seen under the car will be far from factory including the engine, trans, the differential, headers, exhaust and more. He said to me, if you're planning to dress it with the colorful day 2 headers, Lakewood red safety gear and yellow slapper bars and powder coating everything else...isn't that the perfect contrast for the satin black applied to the last car?

I answered yes!

Originally Posted by William

Back in the '80s, we did a ZL1 and a '67 Z/28. Did both undercarriages in satin black. No body color overspray, no primer. Common back then.

Sure has changed over the years.

I have really come to appreciate the factory correct restoration methods being replicated today, and the attention to detail that many will strive to achieve. To the common person, it may present as being a mess when compared to many of the trophy cars out there, but to the purist, I'm sure it is more appreciated. I think I can appreciate both styles of restoration if the work is quality driven, but lean towards factory correct. I know who started me down that path! (lol)

I'm still not completely sure what will be done with the underside of this one right now, but I'm sure it will be sorted in the coming weeks. The firewall and trunk detail will for sure mimic the factory side of things, just not sure I want bright yellow overspray to adorn the freshly restored floors underneath.

...and the dilemma continues

[X66 714]

You & I have spoken about this car many times. I have a different perspective of this car today than I had when you first purchased it. You now have original docs & lots of the original equipment. You have even found some of the missing pieces that were lost during previous sales.

If it was mine & I wanted it to be day 2, it would have to be restored back to day 1 first because in it's day, that's where it all started. You have one chance to get it back to day one. After that, all the evidence is gone.

Just my opinion, which I know you didn't ask for....but

Keep pluggin'. Love it...Joe

[NorCam]

FWIW, Stefano had a car a few years ago that was later sold as a prepped roller that was completely finished in primer/sealer. It was a yellow on yellow RS Z/28 and the floors were finished much how this car was found with a lot of gray original primer and lot's of yellow overspray in the rear of the car. Mine appears to have even more yellow up in the tunnel but the grey primed base is nearly identical and there does not appear to be any black other than the lower floor plans, the transmission tunnel area. Some sound deadener is also applied to the back wheel openings and was over-sprayed along the rear frame rails between the time the floors were done and the body surface was sprayed. Firewall was of course black over yellow as stated earlier

Here are the pics of that other yellow on yellow car.

[cruiserofland]

My master fabricator / engine builder friend used to say, anything man made can be rebuilt. I tend to like the newer restoration style of factory-correct underside colors even with day-two parts, but if you document everything with detailed photographs then you (or a future owner) can always restore it or freshen it up a different way in 10 years, or 50 years... either way it will be a beaut!

[NorCam]

FWIW, Stefano had a car a few years ago that was later sold as a prepped roller that was completely finished in primer/sealer. It was a yellow on yellow RS Z/28 and the floors were finished much how this car was found with a lot of gray original primer and lot's of yellow overspray in the rear of the car. Mine appears to have even more yellow up in the tunnel but the grey base is nearly identical in the rear area of the car. On mine, there does not appear to be any black base other than the lower floor plans and up in the transmission tunnel area. Sound deadener was also applied to the back wheel openings and was over-sprayed along the rear frame rails after the wheel openings being done, and before the time the body surface was sprayed yellow. I say that because the wheel tuns were yellow, then had the sound deadener applied, then they have another dusting of yellow overspray on them from when the body was shot. Firewall was of course black over yellow as stated earlier.

Here are the pics of that other yellow on yellow car. It does not have any black applied to the floor boards as mine does?

[R68GTO]

Here's another unsolicited opinion for ya....my car is missing all it's original drivetrain and I only have ownership history back to early 1970 for documentation on mine. Even though I'm not going 100% correct at this point with smog and exhaust and will add race trim graphics in vinyl, I decided to replicate the factory overspray I found during hand-stripping because it would be a bear to try to do it down the road. All the race trim stuff will be bolt on or "peel off" so a future owner can go the factory stock route with relative ease. Going for the "best of both worlds" as I have a high appreciation for both.

[firstgenaddict]

Dave Beems Yenko... original paint