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X Baldwin Motion....you are a thinker.......wish we could meet!
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.. Why would I feel bad? My POP has the real name of the real person that bought my car new. everything else is

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Yes but how do you prove it after the original owner and anyone else who knew the car is no longer alive? What will make your POP any different from the guy who used the aged POP with the fake name? Not much."



"Pretty soon these scammers will be dropping some old guy a few bucks to say he used to own it and then put his name on the fake POP. How do you prove otherwise in that case? "



The more that crap starts happening, the less merit your real POP will have because everyone will doubt everything. These immoral practices will have an impact on everyone who thinks they are safe because their car has real docs.

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Fortunately I also have title, insurance and reg stubs from the original owner but I see your point. Scammers will stop at nothing to make a buck. They will even have "the old guy" on video remembering when HE used to cruise that Z28 vert.
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I would think that a Canadian sold car is the only way to go. The VIN can be verified any time through GM Canada.
With the market saturated with fake paperwork, I'm glad all my cars are Canadian sold

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precisely.....for these very reason,i have always admired canadian built L79 novas
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X Baldwin Motion....you are a thinker.......wish we could meet!

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I'm still waiting to see the 63 ragtop Nova.

If you're ever in town, stop by, I'm very easy to find.

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X Baldwin Motion....you are a thinker.......wish we could meet!

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I'm still waiting to see the 63 ragtop Nova.

i have no digital pics of it..been in storage...
heres an old picture.....circa 1989....



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I'm still waiting to see the 63 ragtop Nova.

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where are you located?
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I would think that a Canadian sold car is the only way to go. The VIN can be verified any time through GM Canada.
With the market saturated with fake paperwork, I'm glad all my cars are Canadian sold

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Thanks Carm - I needed that!
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.. Why would I feel bad? My POP has the real name of the real person that bought my car new. everything else is

JMHO

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Yes but how do you prove it after the original owner and anyone else who knew the car is no longer alive? What will make your POP any different from the guy who used the aged POP with the fake name? Not much.

Pretty soon these scammers will be dropping some old guy a few bucks to say he used to own it and then put his name on the fake POP. How do you prove otherwise in that case?

The more that crap starts happening, the less merit your real POP will have because everyone will doubt everything. These immoral practices will have an impact on everyone who thinks they are safe because their car has real docs.

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A.)dmv history can be a poor way of determining a cars true pedigree.but radiocarbon dating documents can and will be a sure way of determination.i know this may sound extreme but as we evolve in our technology this is what it comes down to....i'm sure data banks will eventually lists all the true high dollar cars by vin#.a fake car can be determined through extensive research.determining the block,heads etc....a real good recreation that utilizes true era correct components will be expensive to biuld in the first place.making it worth a few bucks in itself.would it be worth that expense and effort? not without true doc's..not fake ones....remember,docs can be authenticated.

as far as less merit of a real pop...i'm sorry to say but that has already happened.....

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DMV records only go back so far. You can carbon date the POP in this thread all you want and it will still come out as being almost 40 years old.
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DMV records only go back so far. You can carbon date the POP in this thread all you want and it will still come out as being almost 40 years old.


how is that?

it is 2 years old.....i dont understand....
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