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Old 10-18-2014, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: "Hog Wild" '69 Z-28 Super Stock Car.

I'd be happy to bring detailed photos of the tags and VINs, but the car itself would take up valuable space at the show.

Thanks to everybody who contributed, it is good to hear that there are other oddballs out there. If this discussion proves anything it is that mistakes and anomalies exist throughout these cars.

Going back to the start of this - does anybody have any photos of this car ? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-21-2014, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: "Hog Wild" '69 Z-28 Super Stock Car.

There are now three different topics being discussed.

This car:
Looking at the tag, it's amazingly straight for having the firewall behind it twisted.
I don't understand how you are saying this is possible - body # or build date.
The Chevrolet Central Data Systems (basically the Central Office) &quot;tele-processed&quot; the orders to the plant. Orders were tracked by the order #.
When the body came through the wall to the body bank, the clerk would pull up the order via the number on the trim tag (which is the same as the order # in 69) and input the VIN (which had just been assigned). The data from the order was used to generate the Chassis and Body Broadcast Sheets that were printed throughout the plant.
Without the correct order #, the order couldn't be pulled up and the broadcast sheets could not be generated.
http://www.camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml#chev


Marlin,
That's normal - body # to VIN vary a little. Same with the 69 COPOs.
The build date of this car is a month early and the body # is 50,000 units - months of production - late.

Mark,
Tag and VIN match on that COPO - just looks like it was held (for a repair?) at the plant.

X77,
No. There are no other anomalies like this. 20,000 cars in the database - none have a trim tag a month early nor a body # off like this. That's why the tag caught my eye.
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Old 10-21-2014, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: "Hog Wild" '69 Z-28 Super Stock Car.

Kurt,

You forgot me... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Old 10-22-2014, 03:01 AM
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Default Re: "Hog Wild" '69 Z-28 Super Stock Car.

Sorry, you are part of the 'This car&quot; discussion. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: "Hog Wild" '69 Z-28 Super Stock Car.

Kurt,

As you no doubt are are aware I stand ready to assist the CRG in making it's assembly process document the best it can be.

As it is the process as written today is accurate for the assembly operations managed by General Motors Assembly Division (GMAD) but is lacking in it's technical discussion pertaining to the differences where Fisher Body and Chevrolet worked as separate operating divisions at Norwood.

Let me know how I can be of assistance for the betterment of the hobby.
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Old 10-22-2014, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: "Hog Wild" '69 Z-28 Super Stock Car.

Kurt,
Yes I understand the Yenko I mentioned has a matching vin # /BDY #. The &quot;Hog Wild&quot; car has a BDY # that does not match the vin # /build date. The Yenko has an actual build date (components/ship date later in April) that does not match the vin/ BDY #. If the Yenko was held for repairs, they repaired/built the entire car later in April.
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Old 10-22-2014, 03:54 PM
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Default Re: "Hog Wild" '69 Z-28 Super Stock Car.

What are the sheet metal dates on the body?
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Old 10-22-2014, 08:39 PM
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Phil,
Feel free to propose edits.
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Old 10-22-2014, 08:46 PM
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Sounds good. I have your e mail.
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Old 10-24-2014, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: "Hog Wild" '69 Z-28 Super Stock Car.

Sorry, my computer was in the shop for a few days. When I can, I'll dig her out of the back of the shop and get some more info off this thing. Better photos of the tag, VINs, punchings and sheetmetal dates. Wasn't expecting this left turn in things, so I'm unprepared.
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