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Chris,
I meant no disrespect towards you. Your integrity, knowledge and reputation in regard to unrestored cars is widely known. As is your prestigious collection of unrestored Vettes. The Boss 9 market much like the rest of Ford world is impossible to predict and much less stable than Vette world. January before last an restored Boss 9 that had never been judged but was marketed as a Thoroughbred went for 660K. This past January some sold in the 360K range and your car is better than all of those by a wide margin. The two MCA judges who looked at your car Friday were comparing it to a unrestored Black Boss 9 that had sold for 550K so I don't think that is fair? If anyone can detail an unrestored car to high show standards it is you. The problem with Boss 9s compared to Vettes is that the Boss 9 runs like a turd in relation to a big block Chevy( and some would say a Chevy Vega) and as a veteran of MCA competition Its my observation the Ford meets are highly political and the MCA unrestored class is similar to your Vette benchmark class in that the MCA requires all the parts to be original and precede the cars build date including tires, battery and exhaust and 80% of the paint for which they use a paint gauge. More problamatic is a lack of uniformity that Vette shows have in judging standards that the MCA doesn't. The MCA doesn't have a survivor class like the Vette world does for cars that aren't benchmark level. Your new Boss 9, I would think would sail through the new survivor program Dave Burroughs has put together? I am not sure if it has date code correct tires, exhaust etc that MCA judges are looking for and think any unrestored car without them is crap. The MCA guys are just beyond anal when it comes to originality, they evaluate every original Mustang from a benchmark level status. |
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I was amazed at what a nice facility it turned out to be and the amazing amount of quality cars. Dave and Dana are happy with how the sales went. Try selling off 21 cars and wading thru 21 cars worth of tire kickers. It would probably take a couple years to go thru those cars. Dana did it in a couple hours. Real bids, real money. Nobody in the car world can say they didn't know the cars were for sale. If you wanted one of the cars, you came or bid from home. The reserve on the blue RS ZL1 was 675K but it sold for 800K. I don't think having two ZL1's there had anything to do with the prices. That just appears to be where the prices are now. If you are buying and selling you are taking a hit but the cars in reality are getting more affordable. I don't need a family resort, just cars. Everyone there that I asked about it thought the whole setup was great.
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Well said Charley. I agree totally. Chris, you got a great car at a fair price IMO. Les, you should have actually attended.
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No problems at all. They are just cars. I actually bought it because I know it will clean up. A friend here in Dallas loves these, and he wasn't able to make it and couldn't be reached by phone, so I bought it. If he wants it, it's his and I'll help him clean it up.
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I just checked the Mecum website and saw the red W-30 ragtop go for 55 or so, the black one 80. The 4-speed reddish one went for a buck fifty. I wonder the level of documentation on the first two as it seems too low.
On the other hand, perhaps there were other variables affecting prices, such as being 2nd tier cars among 1st tier cars? There's not a lot of Chevy guy who are interested in spending that kind of coin for an Olds. |
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Charley,
Its good to hear some positive news. Everyone seemed to like the facility, Indy is just not considered a resort destination? No one can fault the effort Dana put into selling Dave's cars. I just think they sold under the market? But the market is changing I guess? Great news about super ultra rare supercars like the Blue ZL-1 being more affordable and selling for half of what we thought market value was. That would mean the Supersnake is also more affordable right? Half of what we thought it was?? ![]() ![]() |
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Mike,
I had planned on coming but had to be in Chicago unexpectedly the previous weekend for a funeral and have to fly back this weekend on more unpleasent business. I couldn't be out of town three weekends in a row. It's my loss, had I been there I would own the unrestored blue ZL-1 right now. ![]() |
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You don't know if you would have owned the RS ZL1. Remember you still would have to out bid the guy that got it and you don't know what it would take to out bid him. Same guy that bought a couple Cobras a auction last year ? Has a few hundred cars ? Remember when ZL1's were 200 K ? Not so long ago.
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Did Jerry Macneish sell Old Reliable? What was the price?
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It was bid on the block to 400K,but was not accepted.
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