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Old 05-22-2008, 01:05 AM
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:16 AM
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Interesting pic from the past:

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Old 05-22-2008, 01:48 AM
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Verne,

I agree with you that “significance” is a somewhat subjective term and would not try to argue any one choice is “correct” but I believe we may have a difference of opinion with your statement that the RPO-Z11 was the most complete racing package ever offered by Chevrolet.

Let me reiterate: RPO-L88 was a COMPLETE RACING PACKAGE; not an engine-only option. This applies to the RPO-L88/ZL1 Corvette only (not the ZL1 Camaro which we agree was NOT a complete packaged race car).

The Z11 was of course one of the most SIGNIFICANT race cars in its time but I don’t believe it can be said it was a MORE complete package. Wanna compare lists?

Regardless, two incredible factory-built race cars. I give the L88/ZL1 Corvette the nod as being more significant because it could be ordered by anyone with the money and patience.
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:40 AM
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I don't mind a healthy debate. Make a list of all the features that were unique to an L-88 Vette other than those which were standard on any other big block Vette, and I'll do the same for the Z-11 Impala.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:10 AM
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L-88/ZL-1 Corvette vs. Z-11 Impala...this outta be pretty good.
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:26 AM
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hello,
i dont mean to steal or change the direction of this thread.but i'm the guy who built the blue z/28 convertible.
a friend informed me of my car appearing on this site and i have read the posts.

i would like to clear some things......
i have no wrong intentions on the build of this car.yes the engine has been properly broached,stamped etc....i have been very open on this build from the very beginning....

why i did it was because it can be done....we all know this practice is going on...i'm not hiding behind a clone but rather standing in front of one...

if it ever shows up at an aution for $800k as previously mentioned the new buyer will sign a legal document that he or she is knowingly purchasing a recreation.and i will always retain that document.



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Old 05-22-2008, 09:15 AM
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Interesting that you consider the L-88 a package. It was not bundled as such. When ordering the L-88 option, there were of course some mandated options but they were priced individually.
The ZR2 package, available to the '71 LS-6 engine was a package. The list price was $1749.00 and included the MA6, K66, V01, J56, F41 etc, along with restriction of options that couldn't be ordered, just like on the L-88. However the above options were NOT available separately on other models, which is not the case with the L-88 years. Those options were available separately and could have been ordered with other engine options.
So as to a "racing package" you would need to give the nod to the LS-6 ZR2 Corvette of 1971.
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:53 PM
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Wagonman, please fill in your profile. It is insulting to say on a public forum that you stand in front of your car, but yet you won't reveal your name to us.
Not all of us here are as well informed as you would think us to be.
I applaud you posting a defense of what you built or had built for you, but you make me question your sincerity when you hide behind a screen name.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:36 PM
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I'm a little confused by the list of RPOs such as K66, J56, F41, etc that were bundled with the ZR2 package, but were not available on other Vettes. Why were they RPOs then, rather than just additional "special equipment"?

In any case, here is my list:

RPO Z-11 Impala features

* The 427cid engine itself: special crank, rods, pistons, heads, cast push rod guides, intake, valvecovers, water pump, air cleaner, oil pan, balancer, flywheel, hollow fuel pump rod, fuel lines and filter, plus misc. fittings, brackets & springs
* Special suspension, including Corvette Z-06 brake backing plates with unique metallic linings, unique coil springs & ball joints
* Special roller type rear axle bearings, retainers and studs
* No body sound deadener
* Cowl induction
* 15x5.5” wheels
* 4.11 positraction rear axle
* Aluminum body components, including hood, hood lock support, front fenders, front and rear bumpers & brackets, front splash shield, grille brackets, fan shroud, battery tray
* No other options available
* Only 50 of them were built just to satisfy NHRA’s requirement for Super Stock.

None of the above was standard equipment with any other 409 car. And the only items above that were optional on other models are the 15x5.5 wheels and the 4.11 posi.

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