School me on SS427s!

[442w30]

Paul:

I am overdue for a response, whether it's neither here nor there . . .

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Reguarding the Aurora you better take a look at the radio in the dash. Yep it Says Oldsmobile.....


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Now you're nit-picking. Regardless, the lack of Impala nomenclature doesn't mean the car is not an Impala, although it's a premise I can understand.

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You already digressed to the ss396 Vin .. As you can see it was the most economical decision with a run of 2100 cars. Why change the vin ..


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But do you think economics is the qualifier whether a car is a model or an option package? The SS was a package for the Camaro for its entire life, yet I don't think it was ever subverted as anything other than a model.

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As to your 2+2 comment it was a standalone Model that they removed the Catalina name from which reverted to a option package you might want to rethink your example ..

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That's not true. In 1964, it was a Catalina 2+2. And I believe it was an option package for all 4 years. While it may have been branded better in '65-67 as a stand-alone, it still was an option package.

Riddle me this: If it or the SS427 were models, why don't we have breakdowns by bodystyle? How come we don't know how many 2+2 ragtops were built? (In a little caveat on my part, my memory suggests the 2+2 was its own model in 1966, but why aren't there any numbers for ragtops?)

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"Pontiac 2+2
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Not a good source!

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"who would pay 5000.00 for a Chevrolet? "


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This Quote was taken from a test drive of the SS427 in 1967 so the price was fairly accurate to who ever wrote the article. I believe you think I just gussed at that number if you want the article I can supply you with a link.


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No, thanks . . . I thought I was clear - maybe not? - that the SS427 was not a $5000 car, but perhaps a road test had one that was. Obviously it was a loaded-up example. But I bet most SS427s were closer to $4500 or even hovering just above $4000 - don't forget, the average price of a car back then was on the other side of 4 grand!

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As to having Mystique...
It was mysterious enough that they made only 2100 of this car and we are all talking about it today lol . Every time I have my car out I am asked where the hood louvers are and the V nameplates. maybe it is more notorious than mysterious ..

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Yeah, but that's because your car is confusing - I think most people assume the 427 was not available on the Impala SS and only on the SS427. I know I wasn't sure as recently as 2 years ago, but I wouldn't have asked you about the dome; instead, I would have asked you whether it was correct to have a 427 in an SS, but that's just how I approach things.

Anyway, just a little bench racing and bantering about an interesting car that no one really seems to know about, but I think we probably know it all collectively.

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-----Dennis,,,DUH on my part!!! All I looked at was the aluminum intake. . So we are looking at a heated up, headerized lo-perf 427. That aint all bad!!!.....Bill S

[Paul Vitale]

Tax Title and Plates your gonna be closer to 5000 than 4500.. I did a quick search came up with 4300 - 4500 not a convert.. Even at 4500 we are talking Cadillac money for a Top of the line Chevrolet. They were not my words LOL fight with the author of the article written in 1967.

And you better check your data the 2+2 was a model in 65 and 66 .. But due to the GTO kicking it`s sales butt they reverted it back to an option in 67 and if it was tagged a 2+2 the name catilina was not on the veh anywhere all 3 years.. Don`t matter if it is Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia or not it is accurate. How many 4 speed cars where built in 67 ? How many power glides, This was a reg option and it is a mystery. Why would it be surprising they did not keep track of what was built on a 2100 car run.. No one really thought it was important at the time I guess ..

Nit picking or not you said it is not on the car anywhere and I am telling you it is and I am accurate it is there ..

As to my car being confusing It is not much different than a copo tow truck or a Kingswood wagon with a 4 speed and 427 .. They checked the right box.. Part of the confusion was they wanted to sell more of the SS427`s so it was not well known you could get it in the impala .. I guess it is more of people trying to get what they wanted and smarter than the average bear salesmen who knew there way around the order sheets.. And again who knows why GM did some of the tings they did..

Paul

[Paul Vitale]

My car is a 385hp 427 and it is running a better number than any full size 425hp car.. I would not call it Lo Performance..

I know I know quit nit picking lol just sticking up for my baby LOL

Paul

[SS427]

For you big car fans, (ssl78396) sent me this link of big car photos with many racing shots as well. This group contains 61-70 with many SS427 and 427 Biscaynes, Impalas, etc. Pretty cool.

http://rides.webshots.com/album/557108482VKykvt

[Paul Vitale]

Here is one he can add to his list

http://www.geocities.com/gtsreg/PSMCDR2009/pair37.JPG

[442w30]

Paul, here's another one for ya!

http://www.examiner.com/x-16064-NY-Ameri...show-in-America

[Donny Brass]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeBSisbgFsw

this car is featured in this months Hemmings Muscle Machines

[GTO_DON]

That does not look like a Z24 car to me.

[Lynn]

I realize Colvin's book has been brought up, but don't believe anyone noted the notes. Passenger 425 horse engines are listed along with how many of each. ID suffix, "11 engines built, no record of install".

IK suffix, "6 engines built, no record of install".

Guess one is for stick, one for auto. So, there were at least 17 L72 engines made. Not so hard to believe some (or at least one) was installed per an engineers directions.

Too bad JohnZ didn't keep any paperwork on that one.

BTW, what date was the L72 option canceled for the 67 model year?