New TRIM TAG law going into effect in Oklahoma!

[Lynn]

Deleted by poster. Decided a PM was more appropriate.

[Verne_Frantz]

I wish I could have read your response Lynn...

Verne

OOOOOOTAY!!!!!!!

[Seattle Sam]

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i agree!!!
what if somebody purchased a car for big dollars.then years later when he went to sell it and then discovered the fake tag?

your going to sit there completely surprised
the exact same look that a person that knew the tag was fake

now,the judge will be able to tell a innocent persons surprised look from a guilty persons surprised look?

now your supposed to let the court decide? just sit there and hope your average judge or jury will probably use common sense?


that worries me.

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If you unknowingly sold me a car with fake tags, and then it became known, why would it end up in court? Would you refuse to take the car back, since it was not what you represented?

[joey]

My only problem with this law is,#! buyers remorse lets say someone spends 100k on a z28 and a year later says I cant get my money back out of it so I will sue the seller. I dont think its real, because the intake is dated 2 weeks off or it has replacement rims or there is no putty on the cowl tag rivetts so it must be a fake.Who is to say they can tell what every car most definitly is or was ,I know of no one.Some think they can but thats just it they think they can but can they prove it? I doubt it because most all of them have allready made mistakes! Now I do think this is a good move in the right dirrection but only time will tel!!

[Steve Shauger]

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My only problem with this law is,#! buyers remorse lets say someone spends 100k on a z28 and a year later says I cant get my money back out of it so I will sue the seller. I dont think its real, because the intake is dated 2 weeks off or it has replacement rims or there is no putty on the cowl tag rivetts so it must be a fake.Who is to say they can tell what every car most definitly is or was ,I know of no one.Some think they can but thats just it they think they can but can they prove it? I doubt it because most all of them have allready made mistakes! Now I do think this is a good move in the right dirrection but only time will tel!!

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What the heck are you talking about. Your scenario has nothing to do with the law as introduced. Try reading it first before commenting geez.

[427king]

Actually his idea isnt far fetched. Im sure someone that buys a car for big money and simply made a mistake buying a nicely done clone for big$$ could easily change the tag himself and start a lawsuit. I see it all the time on parts, someone finds a part on ebay for 1/2 of what they just paid and suddenly they want to return the part or all of a sudden they noticed a defect. That trim tag law does give this type of person a little loophole if the buyer is dishonest and simply wants out of his own mistake . Try proving as a seller that the trim tag on a car isnt the one you sold it with.

[Charley Lillard]

Taking a nice pic of the trim tag on the car before you sell it would probably cover it especially if it was a ebay add that everyone saw.

[Hylton]

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Taking a nice pic of the trim tag on the car before you sell it would probably cover it especially if it was a ebay add that everyone saw.

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That, and a clear declaration by both parties in the bill of sale acknowledging the state of the car, including the trim tag (and everything else for that matter).

[Steve Shauger]

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Actually his idea isnt far fetched. Im sure someone that buys a car for big money and simply made a mistake buying a nicely done clone for big$$ could easily change the tag himself and start a lawsuit. I see it all the time on parts, someone finds a part on ebay for 1/2 of what they just paid and suddenly they want to return the part or all of a sudden they noticed a defect. That trim tag law does give this type of person a little loophole if the buyer is dishonest and simply wants out of his own mistake . Try proving as a seller that the trim tag on a car isnt the one you sold it with.

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In that case he would be a criminal, based on this law. I doubt the owner who swapped tags (because he was unhappy with the car), would then report it to the authorities (knowing what he did was unlawful) so that he could get his money back from the previous owner. This thing has been what iffed to death. I think there's a better chance of a ZL1 engine floating up from the bottom of the Connecticut river.

[PeteLeathersac]

Ok, here it's Nov. 20'th and thanks to Lynn and others hard work, the Oklahoma legislation has been law for a few weeks already.. So what now as there's obviously still tons of tags selling daily on eBay and elsewhere?. If there's any chance of at least getting eBay to stop assisting the problem, should we who care maybe band together in some way and do something to get eBay's attention?. I'm thinking we perhaps target a few specific auctions and in a consistant fashion, report them as illegal items being sold and citing the Oklahoma law?. I just can't help but feel if this things truly gonna' have any bite, the sooner we act, the more chance of it ever being possible?. Anyone else have any other ideas...or care?.

Here's an current example we could start with...even has the Vin tag included!.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1962-Chev...sspagenameZWDVW


~ Pete