Interview with Mary Barra

[Charley Lillard]

Hey Jeff...My guess is you can add Tesla battery storage to your homes solar power and get the cars charge off of the batteries at night :-)

[Jeff H]

Originally Posted by Charley Lillard

Hey Jeff...My guess is you can add Tesla battery storage to your homes solar power and get the cars charge off of the batteries at night :-)

What price range do the batteries cost? I have solar on my house, but it feeds the grid and I get credit for what goes out and then use the grid when the solar isn't producing. I'm sure I would need more panels to charge a vehicle in addition power the house.

[Charley Lillard]

Originally Posted by Jeff H

What price range do the batteries cost? I have solar on my house, but it feeds the grid and I get credit for what goes out and then use the grid when the solar isn't producing. I'm sure I would need more panels to charge a vehicle in addition power the house.

I think you can get Tesla batteries for cheap but would check into it since you already have solar.

[Charley Lillard]

I live in the country and have a 550 gallon gas tank here at the house. We really enjoy not having to go to a gas station and deal with the crackheads that seem to be everywhere. Having a electric vehicle that you just plugged in at home would also spare you from having to go to the gas station. Also wouldn't need to worry about oil changes. Maybe a two car family has one of each with the non electric used on those long trips when needed.

[TomP]

I would run out of range several times a year and think i'd only ever have to do that once to learn never to try again. I make a couple 16 to 18 hours at a stretch drives. No way would I tolerate breaking that up into extra days or being stuck in some remote town twiddling my thumbs for hours and not being a third of the way there yet.
On last summer's trip i'd have been really up the creek if I was in an electric car and was still plenty concerned driving a gas one after a shortcut in northern California ended with a blocked road 100 miles in... and had to backtrack the same way that extra hundred then find a gas station which involved trying several towns and running down to less than 3 miles of range left. The egg under the gas pedal driving style is perfected when you have 34 miles of gas left and the next closest place to get it is 35 miles away.

After getting gas I still had to detour to a road that meant an extra 200 miles of driving to get to where I was going 20 miles from the blockade.

As it was the long detour meant driving triple digit speeds to get there.

My brother used to have a propane powered Dodge van. Not a conversion a Canadian factory built one. He tried to drive to Mexico, he had a list of all the propane stations the whole way. Since there was not enough range on I5 south of Stockton he had to take 99. He had no problems getting propane until then, the next station was open 9 to 5... he gets there after 4pm and it is just a tool rental shop and the pump was in the back through a 3 foot wide door. He had to take the tank out which took him all of Friday night into the next morning. Laying in the dirt using minimal hand tools and the bumper jack to get enough space to get the tank under the rocker panel.
Then the guy who fills propane wasn't there Saturday, they weren't open Sunday so it was Monday morning when he got it filled and Monday late afternoon when he had the tank back in the van and turned around for home.

[JoeC]

Tesla V3 Supercharging adds 75 miles in just 5 minutes

the future does not look good for new fossil fuel vehicles

"Many countries are now banning new vehicles that run on fossil fuels like gasoline, diesel or liquefied petroleum gas. Germany, India, Ireland, Israel, and the Netherlands have announced plans to ban fossil fuel cars starting in 2030; Britain, France, Taiwan and California will ban them in 2040; and Norway in 2025. Paris, Rome, Madrid, Athens and Mexico City will ban diesel vehicles in 2025."

[Crush]

Originally Posted by JoeC

Tesla V3 Supercharging adds 75 miles in just 5 minutes

the future does not look good for new fossil fuel vehicles

"Many countries are now banning new vehicles that run on fossil fuels like gasoline, diesel or liquefied petroleum gas. Germany, India, Ireland, Israel, and the Netherlands have announced plans to ban fossil fuel cars starting in 2030; Britain, France, Taiwan and California will ban them in 2040; and Norway in 2025. Paris, Rome, Madrid, Athens and Mexico City will ban diesel vehicles in 2025."

I just can’t see how these countries can ban fossil fuels in short order. As stated a few times, they are lacking the infrastructure to go electric at least short term.
With the recent fluctuations of the stock market and dropping of oil prices the political influence becomes much stronger in terms of controlling the economic impact to the world by reduced oil use. Many on this site have experienced recession and inflation as it relates to the price of a barrel of oil and to some extent our economy could be impacted by the reduction of fossil fuel use.

Something to think about is that many 3rd world countries need oil byproducts to sustain life ie., heat their homes. As such the use of fossil fuels will be around a long time.

[70 copo]

Originally Posted by JoeC

Tesla V3 Supercharging adds 75 miles in just 5 minutes

the future does not look good for new fossil fuel vehicles

"Many countries are now banning new vehicles that run on fossil fuels like gasoline, diesel or liquefied petroleum gas. Germany, India, Ireland, Israel, and the Netherlands have announced plans to ban fossil fuel cars starting in 2030; Britain, France, Taiwan and California will ban them in 2040; and Norway in 2025. Paris, Rome, Madrid, Athens and Mexico City will ban diesel vehicles in 2025."

Yes... the world wide war on the internal combustion engine. Many in the hobby are concerned, some are in denial- some are too old to care.

Fortunately markets in the free world are built around the consumer. If electric vehicles are made more convenient, more reliable, safer than an ICE vehicle, then the free market will kill ICE all by its self.

So if GM has a winner then why is Mary Barra is on the record in mid 2019 asking the US Government to change the "200,000 vehicle rule"? This is the the so called "tax credit cliff" which is a subsidy quota that mandates relief to the US taxpayer to stop subsidizing EV sales in the future.

US Government said no.

If GM goes into Chapter again GM could be finished. I suspect the Next 12 months are critical for Mary. as I said back on page 1 She looks to be "all in" at this time. I wish her luck.

[Tenney]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

Fortunately markets in the free world are built around the consumer. If electric vehicles are made more convenient, more reliable, safer than an ICE vehicle, then the free market will kill ICE all by its self.

Yep, and more fun?

Won't mean wooden rollercoasters aren't still a blast, though!

[Mr70]

Like watching a drag race between 2 cars,in silence.