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Old 04-14-2021, 08:54 PM
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There was no convertible, we now have GM production records that show no convertibles were produced. Except perhaps as a prototype......

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That's fine, still nice to make something even if GM didn't. Plus IF there were actually none made, no one can be upset about it.

BUT years ago, a friend restored the 1 of 6 GT350 coupes. EVERYONE said they never made one, except Carroll himself!! He saw it at a show they were at and HE'S the one that said "yes we did make 6 of them".
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There was no convertible, we now have GM production records that show no convertibles were produced. Except perhaps as a prototype......

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I always thought this too. The convertible started out as a rumor and made its way to urban myth status. I was always under the impression that only 200 hardtops were made
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I don't want to start too much commotion but I probably had something to do with the "rumor". I talked to the person who owned it. He worked for GM and bought it internally.
Got his name from a guy that seen the car on a dyno at GM. I won't give any details (sorry) but the car was supposedly crushed by the guy that he sold it to. So the rumor continues!
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Known trim tag date range runs from 02D to 03A (very few early cars for initial press release at proving grounds), and 03C to 04B. There are no known 03B cars.

There is old evidence of the Z16 convertible existing, from more than one source who did not know each other at the time, with exactly matching stories as to where it was sold new, who owned it first, and the colors. There were also two independent sources with matching stories of the car's demise in an accident. So I have no doubt it existed.

But Paul is correct that the ECL total for the Z16 option on 13867 [SS convertible] series cars is listed as 0 produced, while 201 is the total listed for the 13837 [SS coupe] series. (A production Z16 convertible would have its own ECL because an SS convertible already had a boxed frame while an SS coupe did not, which makes the parts content lists different for the two body styles.)

However, the ECL totals do not include COPO orders, or vehicles hand built at the Tech Center, so either of those could have been the origin of the Z16 convertible. And that seems likely since the interior and exterior colors were not from list of available colors for a "production" Z16.
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Great to meet you this weekend Jeff...
I Love your ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS "part car part truck - dark blue ranchero"

My dad was really impressed with your attention to detail as well, he said the car just looks "right".
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Known trim tag date range runs from 02D to 03A (very few early cars for initial press release at proving grounds), and 03C to 04B. There are no known 03B cars.

There is old evidence of the Z16 convertible existing, from more than one source who did not know each other at the time, with exactly matching stories as to where it was sold new, who owned it first, and the colors. There were also two independent sources with matching stories of the car's demise in an accident. So I have no doubt it existed.

But Paul is correct that the ECL total for the Z16 option on 13867 [SS convertible] series cars is listed as 0 produced, while 201 is the total listed for the 13837 [SS coupe] series. (A production Z16 convertible would have its own ECL because an SS convertible already had a boxed frame while an SS coupe did not, which makes the parts content lists different for the two body styles.)

However, the ECL totals do not include COPO orders, or vehicles hand built at the Tech Center, so either of those could have been the origin of the Z16 convertible. And that seems likely since the interior and exterior colors were not from list of available colors for a "production" Z16.
Jeff, what was the actual color combo of the convert Z16??
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Jeff, what was the actual color combo of the convert Z16??
Sierra Tan, with Beige convertible top and either Fawn or Saddle interior. So, "triple tan". Not quite as appealing as triple black, IMO!
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Great to meet you this weekend Jeff...
I Love your ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS "part car part truck - dark blue ranchero"

My dad was really impressed with your attention to detail as well, he said the car just looks "right".
Thanks! Great to meet you and your brother too! And to see your nice cars!
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Old 04-16-2021, 02:40 AM
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It there a public Registry for Z16's? Sometimes when one is advertised for sale or at an auction it will say it is a certain number. Since all the VIN's aren't know I assume they are referring to it's number in a registry.
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