You Can't Make This Stuff Up!

[Lee Stewart]

[Lee Stewart]

[Lee Stewart]

[Lee Stewart]

Rare car. 1970 1/2 Cobra Jet Ram Air Ford Falcon. Not many of these were made.

[Lee Stewart]

[Lee Stewart]

How times have changed. The car was for transporting people - not their stuff as we see from the small "trunk" which almost looks like an after thought. Didn't people have "stuff" at this time that they might want to take with them, other than clothes?

[dustinm]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Here is the description for RPO Code ZL1:



https://jameshalderman.com/wp-conten.../RPO_Codes.pdf

The ZL1 Camaros used a COPO number . . . NOT an RPO code. You can easily see this on the paperwork provided.

So tell me . . . what does RPO stand for? Does it stand for Regular Production Order?

It's the same thing with the 427 Camaros and Chevelles. Nowhere does L72 appear on the paperwork. Only a COPO number.

I get where both sides are coming from, but Lee has a good point. You weren't going to go down to small town Hutchinson's Chevrolet (local GM dealer town of 1200 - I also know the owners son) and just order a ZL1 Camaro via a regular order sheet. I would wager to bet even that small time zone manager would not have known how to get one(I could be wrong).

[dustinm]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

How times have changed. The car was for transporting people - not their stuff as we see from the small "trunk" which almost looks like an after thought. Didn't people have "stuff" at this time that they might want to take with them, other than clothes?

Lee, all I need to take along for trips are clothing and firearms

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Here is the description for RPO Code ZL1:



https://jameshalderman.com/wp-conten.../RPO_Codes.pdf

The ZL1 Camaros used a COPO number . . . NOT an RPO code. You can easily see this on the paperwork provided.

So tell me . . . what does RPO stand for? Does it stand for Regular Production Order?

It's the same thing with the 427 Camaros and Chevelles. Nowhere does L72 appear on the paperwork. Only a COPO number.

No - RPO codes get reused, so it is important to use contemporaneous references when decoding the RPO, rather than generic modern lists* which can create additional confusion. I think we can disregard ZL1 as a "noise control" device for the purpose of our discussion.

RPO = "Regular Production Option". In addition to RPOs there are also SEOs ("Specialty Equipment Options"), which can be used for low volume fleet builds. Uhaul paint schemes, hand throttles, hour meters, weird tires, etc, could all be defined by SEOs.

K

*no judgement; happens all the time among squarebody truck enthusiasts. I even have a meme for it.

[Keith Seymore]

I'm still on the fence, but watching with great interest to see where we land on this.

My only contribution at this time would be that the options do add, combine, and supersede each other, particularly for pricing, packaging and window sticker reporting, like what Mr 70 suggested.

Originally Posted by Mr70

But Steve he asked what was the RPO for the motor option,is why I said ZL-1.
Like when a customer placed an order for a 1970 Chevelle Z-25 SS 396,he received the L-34 engine,(not the L-78 upgrade),which was automatically included with the std. Z-25 1970 SS package,and was not shown at all on the Window sticker either.
Just like if a customer placed an order for the 1969 COPO Camaro package 9560,they automatically received the motor option ZL-1 right at the factory,and not the L-78.(although the car received the L-78 ornamental treatment for obvious reasons)

In my world, a guy might want RPO B85 bright body side molding and order that, but it gets comped up into a YG3 Deluxe Molding Exterior package which includes B80 roof drip moldings, B96 wheel opening moldings, V22 uplevel grille and the desired B85 side trim. The YG3 appearance package would be what appears on the invoice and the window sticker.

I think that's your answer. It doesn't mean the other options don't exist or get used, or that they are not named correctly; they are just buried in the packaging.

K