Can You Identify This 1969 Camaro

[enio45]

i believe there is a 6 cyl car in California with JL8....if so, it will have 15 inch rally wheels on it?

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by enio45

i believe there is a 6 cyl car in California with JL8....if so, it will have 15 inch rally wheels on it?

It should. Engine had no bearing on the JL8's 15" wheels and tires. They were included in the option. That's why it's lowest cost was for the Z/28 which already came with the wheels and tires. That BTW would be a very strange combination though - a 6 CYL with JL8. I would want to see bulletproof docs that it's real. A cheap car with a very expensive limited production brake option.

[Lee Stewart]

So what are the odds that Carroll Chevrolet orders a JL8 Camaro . . . which also has it's picture taken . . . for the back of a high school year book. And then shows up 48 years later on a supercar forum . . .

[enio45]

Ill see if i can search for the car...might have been over at team camaro a while back, 4-5 yrs ago. and yes, i understand it was a safety concern for the orig owner to order the 4 wheel disc brakes on the 6 cyl car.....was one of those old lady owned the car story.

with the limited number of JL8 cars, the JL8 guys probably have a registry for these?

[Steve Shauger]

Lets play the odds here; 20k z28's and I know of 3 non Z28, JL8's none that I've seen with paperwork. One was a GM tech center car. I believe Travelin Z28 has or had one.

[Lee Stewart]

Steve:

As I pointed out in my above post which you concur with . . . . but . . .

When it comes to 1960s muscle cars . . . never say never.

[Steve Shauger]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

It should. Engine had no bearing on the JL8's 15" wheels and tires. They were included in the option. That's why it's lowest cost was for the Z/28 which already came with the wheels and tires.

Lee for the record, and based on available GM docs, the jl8 was available for $500 for both the SS or Z28 equipped cars. Since the SS came with 14 inch wheels and not necessarily rally wheels that kind of debunks your statement.

I believe it had to do with mandatory front disc brakes (credit applied) & suspension requirements on both the Z28 & SS. Non Z28 & SS cars with JL8 likely required a suspension upgrade & no front disc brake credit which drove the cost up to $623. I'm only speculating based on what material is available.

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by Steve Shauger

Lee for the record, and based on available GM docs, the jl8 was available for $500 for both the SS or Z28 equipped cars. Since the SS came with 14 inch wheels and not necessarily rally wheels that kind of debunks your statement.

I believe it had to do with mandatory front disc brakes (credit applied) & suspension requirements on both the Z28 & SS. Non Z28 & SS cars with JL8 likely required a suspension upgrade & no front disc brake credit which drove the cost up to $623. I'm only speculating based on what material is available.

Either way - you ordered JL8 you go 15" wheels and tires



http://www.camaros.org/pdf/options.pdf

[Jeff H]

Yeah, it's hard to imagine they ordered a rear spoiler, dual exhaust on a non SS or Z28 car with JL8 brakes. But I guess it's possible. It's hard to tell from that picture if the car has Z28 stripes or not but with the full size rear bumper guards it makes me think it's a Z28.

[ZLP955]

IMHO the most likely scenario is that the pictured car is a Z28 that was ordered with D96 pinstripes (either factory or dealer applied) instead of the Z stripes as a buyer preference. Special paint on the trim tag, otherwise 'just' another Z.