COPO Identification

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Thanks Brian, that was the info I was looking for!
Marlin

[sixtiesmuscle]

[Edited by sixtiesmuscle (07-03-2000 at 05:53 PM).]

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I have done some checking on some of my prior research in regard to the different types of bodies that came on the '69 Yenko Camaros. I know of a Huggar Orange, automatic, power steering, vinyl top '69 Yenko Camaro that was not in the first 50 but is an X66 body. This car was sold out of Yenko Chev. I also know of a Daytona Yellow, 4 speed, '69 Yenko Camaro that was in the first 50 but it is an X11 body. This car was sold out of Hugh White Chev, Columbus, OH.

I guess there are no distinct timeframes for these body changes, but like Brian says, on average most of the first 50 cars were X66 bodies.

Marlin

[Kurt S]

Correction:
An X66 body is a BB car without the style trim. X22 is a BB style trim car.

See http://www.camaros.org/diffs69.shtml for a complete listing of COPO features.

Kurt
CRG

[bkhpah]

Please explain to me what an X66 car is. I have worked on a number of these and they have all been the same. Tail light trim, Quarter trim, Black tail pan and rockers. Plain headlight rings. Am I wrong? X11 Yenko's carry all the trim including drip and fender mouldings. Without the black tail panel. X44 Yenko's received no trim level at all. These are the only trim levels that I have ever seen on a Yenko. Kurt S what are you trying to say about X66, I'm confused..
BKH

[Bad Boy]

If you are looking to identify a Double COPO, take a look at the front coil spring tags if the car still has them. The 396 and 427 tags will have a different designation. I believe they are YP and HQ respectively. I'll have to double check. I met a fellow who swore he had a Double COPO Camaro, yet this car had a black rear tail panel. I was a bit suspicious at first, then he showed me what was left of the front coil spring tags. The tags designated a 396 car, not a 427 car. Again, there may be some variance, but this one other place to examine if all else fails.

[bkhpah]

The only tags I have ever seen on a COPO or a 396 are HQ even though the HW tag was used as well. I have never see the YP tag. Also you can get a COPO Camaro with a black tail panel. I have seen a few examples of that. If the only evidence that a car is a 9737 is a HQ spring tag and it is a big block, you have really proved nothing other than it has the correct front coils. Paper tags rarely survive. Can you explain why you think a spring tag could ID a COPO Camaro when all else fails?
BKH

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

JoeC.
It appears that Yenko wrote a separate order form for each 'batch' of '70 Yenko Novas, these batches are separated by option groups and time spans. Yenko would order a batch of 4 speeds, then 4 speeds with power steering, then autos, then autos with power steering, creating 4 order forms for the first 125 cars. Yenko later ordered 50 more, but I don't know how he ordered them.

Yenko's order form only specified the COPO numbers, (9010/9737), and did not get into their specifics. Maybe the same for the '69's?

Marlin

[JoeC]

The way I understand it; the std. trim group base car came with 22 items (too long to list) the style trim group (RPO Z21) includes rear fender louvers, fender striping, front and rear wheel opening moldings, black body sill (except with colors 51, 57, 61, and 67), rear panel emblem, bright headlight and tail lamp accents, and bright roof drip moldings (except convertible). If you order the RS (RPO Z22) package it has its own exceptions but of no concern for Yenkos. The SS396 had its own trim group including special hood, special emblems, rear fender louvers (same as Z21), black body sill (except with colors 51, 57, 61, and 67), and black rear panel. Getting back to the X-codes, X44 = base car (will have just the 22 std. trim items). X66 = base car with SS396 (std. 22 items + SS396 trim items) X22 = Style Trim Group with SS396 (std. 22 items + RPO Z21 + SS396 trim). The Yenkos are even more confusing because the COPO form was a loose cannon. When Yenko made his 9561/9737 COPO form he can add and delete RPO's so a X11 could have had the RPO Z21 deleted or a X44 could have had the RPO L78 trim added. We would need to see a copy of the COPO form to see how the cars were ordered. Were all 198 Yenko Camaros on the same COPO or were there "batches" done using different COPO forms? Was there a fixed COPO form for all 427/425 Camaros then Yenko added "his" 9737? I hope copies of the COPO forms turn up someday. I forgot: X11=Style Trim Group (std. 22 trim items + RPO Z21)

[Edited by JoeC (08-02-2000 at 12:27 PM).]

[Edited by JoeC (08-02-2000 at 12:33 PM).]

[Edited by JoeC (08-02-2000 at 01:13 PM).]

[JoeC]

Marlin, Which COPO form was used for the Deuce? Do you have a copy you can email?