Musclecar prices and the possible recession

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by markinnaples

Absolutely disagree. People should be smart, but this complete shutdown is not needed.

Yes it is. The first and most important step is containment.

Where was this panic for the H1N1 epidemic that was far worse?

The H1N1 epidemic (not a pandemic) happened during The Great Recession: April 2009. The panic was centered on people losing their homes, not on getting sick.

The COVID-19 happened during a Bull market with housing fully recovered from TGR and very low unemployment. You could say we were "Lotus Eaters."

I'm not saying that people should needlessly put themselves in harms way, and if you have a compromised immune system or elderly, then stay home and stay safe, but for the rest of society to completely shut down is just not needed, IMHO.

It is if you want to contain this. Almost all the infected people got the virus through some kind of contact with hotspot areas, except where a husband infected his wife and visa versa. Here in NM most of the infected people had just come back from trips to NYC and Italy. And BTW, our newest four cases: man in his 20s, two men in their 30s and one man in his 40s. So don't believe that COVID-19 only targets the elderly

[Zedder]

Read this to understand why social distancing works better than total short term lockdown

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ona-simulator/

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by EZ Nova

Well the news here in Ontario is due to limited test kits, those who seem not infected and more apt to recover will NOT be tested.

So I'm wondering with Lee replys IF the USA can or will handle this as well as Chinese? For Trump to succeed thus is imperative for re-election. if he can do better then China in dealing with this, he is done in the Whitehouse I think. The USA has to get a handle on this and defeat this outbreak ASAP.

Read that article I posted a few post ago how South Korea has handled their outbreak of COVID-19. Do you see ANY resemblance to what the USA is doing today?

I also wonder WHY everything is closing down to roughly April 6th???

Here is the main problem: we are dealing with an unknown virus. We don't have antivirals which facilitate recovery and we don't have a vaccine.

Flu season is almost 100% during the cold weather months. Just by higher temps, greater indoor humidity and stronger UV rays, these really help in killing off the flu. So our leaders are placing their hopes that warmer weather will help eradicate COVID-19. IMO - it's wishful thinking and nothing more.

[Lee Stewart]

The COVID-19 Coronavirus Is Now A Pandemic - Can We Ethically Deal With Lockdowns?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/fernand.../#5c3d68ff3e57

[EZ Nova]

Lee, honestly I really don't know how the USA is handling it as I do not live there. My mother is there but coming home this week due to losing 7 figures in her investments and out of country insurance not covering covid 19 stuff. She has been battling a respiratory illness for a couple months now and being 78 would not do well if she gets this.

Dirty-ass crowded China is coming out with what 5 new cases today? Most populated county in the world and they came from behind to seemingly get a handle on it. Can the USA do that now?

I myself am not too worried about it to tell you the truth. I'm only 54, wife is 39 and son is 2. Our odds, even if we get it, are good for FULL recovery. I have enough to think of with my family business and my family to not really get to concerned about other continents of the world. I pay attention, rationalize a thought or reaction, and move on.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Read that article I posted a few post ago how South Korea has handled their outbreak of COVID-19. Do you see ANY resemblance to what the USA is doing today?



Here is the main problem: we are dealing with an unknown virus. We don't have antivirals which facilitate recovery and we don't have a vaccine.

Flu season is almost 100% during the cold weather months. Just by higher temps, greater indoor humidity and stronger UV rays, these really help in killing off the flu. So our leaders are placing their hopes that warmer weather will help eradicate COVID-19. IMO - it's wishful thinking and nothing more.

Man I must say when I read your comments it sounds like panic. I mean no offense I just feel we need to stay strong and provide some form of positive direction and maintain a level of confidence that the world is not ending. Like many I have lost a significant amount of money and yes I’m concerned .

I spoke to my 90 year old mom who was born during the depression , definitely scary times , but you know what, we got through it and got stronger and I’m confident we will this time! My Mom was very positive and ENCOURAGING !
For those of you that have faith, God gave me comfort in this verse today

Psalms 23
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...-6&version=NIV

[Lee Stewart]

Ontario, Canada: second largest province, covering more than one million square kilometres (415,000 square miles) - an area larger than France and Spain combined. With a population of more than 13.5 million, Ontario is home to more than 1 in 3 Canadians.

Ontario currently has 145 COVID-19 cases 304 in all of Canada:



Just as a comparison, New York City - much less population, but a much smaller geographic area - has 329. Total for NY State is 729.

The last stats I saw for cases versus deaths was 150,000/5000 which is a .03 mortality rate. The problem is the shape of the above curve. When you hear "flattening the curve" now you can understand what they are trying to accomplish: containment. Give scientists the chance to come up with antivirals and a cure. If we look at H1N1 it took 8 months to discovery a cure: April 2009 to December 2009.

The flatter we make the curve the more people will not only recover but also not become infected or die.

[Zedder]

Lee, we have 145 cases in Ontario as of 5 minutes ago. 304 in all of Canada.

[70 copo]

Looks as though we will be looking to stop the virus here and then set the example for the world.

If the US pulls it off then it will be a once in a generation shift in the global landscape.

The vaccine is the key. We may be looking at the end of open Borders, and a redefinition as to what "globalism" and more specifically multiculturalism really means to a society.

Interesting future I think.

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by Zedder

Lee, we have 145 cases in Ontario as of 5 minutes ago. 304 in all of Canada.

Oops! OK - fixed it. Thanks for the correction