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Reproduction parts don't offer a sense of immediate credibility, and only hint at what a car may, or may not, be - further diligence and appraisal is still required.
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Tim in NSW, Australia 1969 Van Nuys 04A Z/28 from Clippinger Chevrolet. Cortez Silver with dark blue interior. Ran at Lions Dragstrip and Pomona Raceway, with paint by Bob Kovacs of Fresno. |
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Sometimes a car hung around a dealer for months, driven by the dealer owner, maybe a demo car, and sometimes they would remove the window sticker for safety's sake because it blocks your view. You can imagine there were times when that window sticker would be lost, and the dealer was supposed to request a new one from Zone, but some dealers simply loaded up a blank window sticker and had the dealer secretary or cashier type up a new one. I keep a database of all the factory mistakes made on 1962-1981 Pontiac window stickers. Most are spelling mistakes, some subtle, others quite embarrassing. Sometimes Pontiac corrected the error the following year, other times the error stuck around for several years. It also varied by plant as to how options were formatted and terminology. Mike
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Where would get the blank form from? From the dealer demo's I have seen, they simply typed up the options on the dealer invoice or used the car shipper document if the prospective buyer wanted to know the equipment.
It seems like it would be a lot of work for the dealer to type one up correctly as you have to know the standard equipment. I'd love to see one.
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I have a couple original 1969 Pontiac blanks, with the carbon paper and backing intact, along with the perforated ears from the tractor feed paper.
The Zone Office, as well as dealerships, were not as careful about accuracy as we would expect. When a window sticker was supposed to be reprinted, they used the punched card to feed the printer. I think occasionally they couldn't locate the card so they simply stuck a window sticker blank into a typewriter and called it a day. The typewriter versions I've seen are usually pretty accurate and follow the formatting for that particular plant. Aside from typos on factory window stickers, I also have a few other examples where there are handwritten notes (dated) stating that the window sticker was reprinted for a specific reason. One was for a billing error, another was for a transmission change. Some dealers bent over backwards to make the sale, and if some guy wanted a Lucerne Blue 1971 GTO that was on the lot, and he wanted it today, but the deal breaker was that it had Rally II Wheels instead of Honeycomb Wheels, a salesman would locate another vehicle on the lot with Honeycombs and have them swapped out. Anything to make a sale. I believe in those cases the dealership may type up their own window sticker to reflect the change. Mike
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Request a new one from Zone leads one to believe there is a data set with the VIN numbers corresponding to the option list for said VIN.
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Reproduction display docs should be destroyed by the owner before re-sale. |
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^ Or better, in my opinion, not exist at all.
I respect your views, perhaps we can agree to disagree.
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Tim in NSW, Australia 1969 Van Nuys 04A Z/28 from Clippinger Chevrolet. Cortez Silver with dark blue interior. Ran at Lions Dragstrip and Pomona Raceway, with paint by Bob Kovacs of Fresno. |
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Maybe we should just stick to collecting Pontiacs and Fords. At least Jim Mattison and Kevin Marti offer the real deal.
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