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Old 10-30-2018, 04:07 AM
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If we mean original as far as the window sticker being generated at the plant, than no, this was not generated from the plant. However, we do see window stickers that are typed up at the dealership. This looks to be the case. The form is correct and does have the perfs on all sides. Looks to be a Brass Hat car, we have original samples of the same stamp for cars used at the dealership. Too many of the ECL codes look to be correct for it to be a repro. The car is an April produced car so it was ordered prior. All the pricing reflects the price changes of June 1965, so these prices would not have been the original prices for the car. Again, I'm guessing it was used at the dealership and when it came time to sell it they typed up the window sticker based on the current pricing at that time and perhaps had a damaged window sticker or car shipper to use as reference for the RPO's and ECL codes.
See attached original 1966 Caprice Brass Hat Car with typing and stamp on original window sticker.
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Old 10-30-2018, 11:47 AM
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That is very interesting. This car was the Popular Hotrodding test car on loan from Covina Chevrolet in 65. This window sticker came with when Dennis purchased the car a few years ago.
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Computer generated in 1965?

Not sure, just asking. IBM 360 series were standard of the industry in late 60’s-70’s. Not sure they were on the market in 65, but maybe there was something else.

Hard to imagine every invoice was hand typed either.

That one’s jarring the memory pretty good.
The IBM System 360 (model 30) was announced on April 7, 1964. Shipments started at the end of 64/beginning of 1965.
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The printers that were used to print the window stickers and other documents were the IBM 1401, 1460 and finally the IBM 1403. We built our font program from original samples of the IBM 1403 which was used for many years at all GM plants.

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I'm sure there were a few unusual situations where a sticker needed to be reproduced at the dealer or zone level, and then it undoubtedly would have been hand typed. But on a car this rare (65 Z16) I personally would need to see and/or know more than a typed window sticker as proof of legitimacy.
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The car is well documented, with owner history and certification letters. Well known car in the Z16 world. Just curious about the window sticker.
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pretty darn good fake if it is even down to the perforation on the bottom where it was torn away from another document.....................
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----That window sticker was never stuck to a window, therefor not attached at the factory! IMHO...….Bill S
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yup thats was how the Z16 package was listed. We we had ours, the sticker reflected it this was.
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That is very interesting. This car was the Popular Hotrodding test car on loan from Covina Chevrolet in 65. This window sticker came with when Dennis purchased the car a few years ago.
I believe that this may be our old Z16. Who is Dennis and where did he find it? Take it to pm
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