70 COPO - Page 3

70 copo · #21 07-05-2006, 02:11 AM

Rick,

Yes the dealers that knew about it could order it. How that all came together was through the zone reps as they were trying to spread them out to show the SCCA they were in production. Dealers within 300 miles of an SCCA race event were a priority for delivery.

Phil

PS. Chuck Nice Z. Do you still have it?

**COPO** · #22 07-05-2006, 02:15 AM

I've owned a '70 RS Z-28 for 26 years, so I follow the market fairly closely. I just can't believe for two absolutely identical '70 Z-28's that the market value is 50% more for the tall spoiler car.

IMO, perhaps 5%-10% at the very best.

70 copo · #23 07-05-2006, 02:40 AM

Just my opinion based on the fact that mine is real and I was offered crazy money for it. But then again there is plenty of crazy money out there these days. The real ones with paper and history are so rare it is hard to keep an eye on what the market is.

If you find a real one (for regular Z money) please be sure to let us all know so one of us can get it.

Phil

Seaspray · #24 07-05-2006, 03:07 AM

I just took a look at mine and it is an 06B build date and has original body panels and paint. Nothing appears to have been touched.

**COPO** · #25 07-05-2006, 04:47 AM

Phil, I think you were offerred "crazy money" because your car is exceptionally restored and certainly one of the best in the country, plus it has a great history. Looking forward to seeing it again at SCR9.

70 copo · #26 07-05-2006, 04:53 AM

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I just took a look at mine and it is an 06B build date and has original body panels and paint. Nothing appears to have been touched.

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Please post up some photos!!!

COPO and others... Looking forward to seeing all of you at SCR-9.

Phil

69LM1 · #27 07-05-2006, 06:46 AM

Someone here just bought a 70 Copo Z for I believe mid forty's, and many thought that a "good" deal. A regular 70 Z is selling for what, mid twenty's? I think Phil's math is probably pretty close. Of course, there are not many changing hands right now, so as many here say, it's worth what someone is willing to spend.

I will say that I have turned down 40k for mine.

You could make the same argument about the 69 COPO's vs. Yenko's. I do not think there is a whole lot of (if any) performance differances, yet the Yenko's demand a much higher price than the Copo's. You are buying the history/name (IMHO). In fact, without the Yenko history, you could make the argument that the regular Copo was in fact superior as it was produced and sold by GM, and the Yenko's are a dealer car, therefore sort of a "day 2" concept.

Same with the 70 Copo Z's. And they are alot harder to authenticate, so when one is air tight, I would think that is worth a premium.

What HP did the 350 duece have? Not being smart, just wondering cause the last time this conversation came up someone mentioned that the 70 Copo Z's were not in the supercar class as they were small blocks and I did not think of the Deuce's then!

Of course, now that I have one I am a bit biased

Rich

70 copo · #28 07-05-2006, 01:59 PM

Rich,

I have to agree. Mine was wanted because it was a COPO.

Phil

**YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY** · #29 07-05-2006, 06:22 PM

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What HP did the 350 duece have? Not being smart, just wondering cause the last time this conversation came up someone mentioned that the 70 Copo Z's were not in the supercar class as they were small blocks and I did not think of the Deuce's then!

Of course, now that I have one I am a bit biased

Rich

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The Yenko Deuce Novas have the Z28's LT1 - including the same application codes for 4sp & a/t's. The Deuce is a SuperCar bec/ the COPO #9010 & #9737 were drivetrain performance items, whereas the '70 COPO Z's were a spoiler change. If I recall the debate, it was regarding whether the spoiler change was considered a performance enhancement vs. an SCCA homogulation requirement.

Either way, both are cool cars - but then, I might be a bit biased too

70 copo · #30 07-06-2006, 12:36 AM

Marlin,

I knew you would chime in!! Clairification-As I recall the Deuce was created to beat the insurance companies as they attempted to rate hike the supercar out of existance-that is why there was no Big Block Yenkos built in 1970. Right?

They were and are both very cool cars, both getting the LT-1 from the "Corvette" option list.

Phil