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Old 08-03-2021, 01:59 AM
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Old 08-03-2021, 02:09 AM
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I agree with Bruce. After seeing the untouched photos it’s legit imho. But I also am not an expert.
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Old 08-03-2021, 04:08 AM
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From what I see those stampings look legit to me.
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Old 08-03-2021, 02:56 PM
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Mr. Clark consulted with me about the issues present well before he posted here, and as you all know I have the Norwood VIN stamping tools and stamps under lock and key.

He is simply looking for information to explain a production anomaly which really is not an anomaly at all If you understand the Norwood assembly process and how the tool room functioned the interface with the transmission feeder conveyor and the motor line all on a day to day basis.

How about we all take a deep breath and put the hobby politics away for a while and try to learn something new?
If you have "the" stamps maybe you should destroy or alter them so no one can ever correctly restamp an engine again.

Otherwise you just have "a" set of original stamps and there are many more out there.
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From what I see those stampings look legit to me.
Just the block stamps, or also the trans ?


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Old 08-04-2021, 12:25 AM
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I see that VIN as a Canadian car. Does the owner have the GM of Canada documents to go with the car?
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:11 AM
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Car is not Canadian. I don't know the difference between Canadian VINs and U.S. VINs but I'm thinking maybe you're misinterpreting something? The VIN is 124379N619394 was built at the Norwood plant, shipped to Mac's in Crete, NE and sold new in Lincoln, NE. Unfortunately, there is no paper documentation other than the NCRS shipping data, and an old registration.
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Old 08-04-2021, 05:31 PM
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If you have "the" stamps maybe you should destroy or alter them so no one can ever correctly restamp an engine again.

Otherwise you just have "a" set of original stamps and there are many more out there.
Despite the obvious troll I will reply.

I am not in to destroying historical objects of any type and to suggest doing so is patiently absurd.

I have written two books on the Norwood Plant, assisted with a pending documentary work, interviewed (on the record) literally hundreds of workers.

Finally the artifacts. I have been blessed with a number of significant artifacts over the years including the stamps. After receiving them I took the initiative to interview the guys who used them, the workers who managed the motor line, other workers who issued the stamps, and explored other issues routinely presented by ARO's on the line.

This information does give me significant knowledge to share specifically with the hobby when a so called "anomaly" appears.

Several years ago I issued a $10K charity challenge to a gentleman on Team Camaro who said I did not "really" have the stampers and tooling.

JamesinHBCA--You want to take me up on it? I have a charity all selected and ready just let me know.
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Old 08-04-2021, 09:31 PM
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And JohnZ's picture of the stamper.
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Old 08-04-2021, 10:23 PM
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And JohnZ's picture of the stamper.
Kurt,

You said that exact same thing the last time I posted a picture of the stamper here on this site.

Just so you know I checked with GM due to your previous comment. GM legal stated that If the photo was taken in a GM plant there is no valid claim creation possible, unlike the images GM provided for my research which was contractually stipulated for usage- and extent of usage - which means I have an enforceable copyright.

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