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Old 02-15-2021, 11:00 PM
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Possible trial balloon to see if there is push back. They will go as far as they can until someone stops them. That's what they do. The stroke of a pen and the EPA could write a regulation to tax our old cars so much we would have to junk them. gary
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Old 02-16-2021, 12:29 AM
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As far as taxing cars, it should be the electric car owners who should be worried. ICE cars pay Federal and State sales tax when they gas up. ICE cars pay neither.
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Old 02-16-2021, 02:44 AM
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Yes, they will tax them to eliminate them. That one plan for guns. Tax ammo to the max.
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If I recall correctly the global warming scamsters predicted back in 2000 that snowfall would soon end. Later the goal posts got moved again and Al Gore did a movie in 2006 named "Inconvenient Truth" where he stated for the record that the planet only had "10 years to go".

This is not political. All the evidence clearly shows it is a scam.

So here we are in 2021 and POTUS just declared TEXAS a disaster area due to snow fall and the temps are forecast to be below zero tonight in Northern Texas.

As much as I hate the phrase "It is what it is" the applicability to the recent decades long climate hysteria is as plain as a fake stamp on an engine block.
It has been pointed out to me by another member that my analysis of the situation above was lacking in facts and details, so I will apologize and supplement the information presented.

The scamsters actually began the operational part of climate attack campaign
way back in 1989, and just like Gore later in 2006 we only had "10 years" then too.
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Possible trial balloon to see if there is push back.
Basically this. And clickbait. And a slow news week. Stirring up emotions is what sells things. "If it bleeds it leads" is a standard news slogan. "Scary" is used many times during the evening news--it could be a drinking game: Every time a national news anchor or reporter says "scary" you down a shot. You'd be smashed in ten minutes.
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UNITED STATES GASOLINE PHASEOUT STATUS:

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In October 2020, US Senator Jeff Merkley (D-OR) and Rep Mike Levin (D-CA-49) introduced the federal Zero Emission Vehicles Act of 2020. This bill would require that 50% of all new passenger vehicles sold in 2025 in the US are ZEVs. The requirement would ramp up 5% each year, to 100% of new vehicle sales by 2035. The bills are co-sponsored by Senators Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), Bernie Sanders (I-VT), and Cory Booker (D-NJ) in the Senate, and Representatives Joe Neguse (D-CO-1), Earl Blumenauer (D-OR-3), Lisa Blunt Rochester (D-DE-At Large), Suzanne Bonamici (D-OR-1), Julia Brownley (D-CA-26), Judy Chu (D-CA-27), Emanuel Cleaver, II (D-MO-5), Mark DeSaulnier (D-CA-11), Anna G. Eshoo (D-CA-18), Jared Huffman (D-CA-2), Pramila Jayapal (D-WA-7), Barbara Lee (D-CA-13), Alan Lowenthal (D-CA-47), Jerry Nadler (D-NY-10), and Chellie Pingree (D-ME-1) in the House.

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In October 2019, Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) proposed a plan to replace every gasoline powered car on the road with an electric one by 2040.



They are planning to move EL-QUICKO.
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The Congressional Budget Office estimates that Highway Trust Fund tax revenue will total $43 billion in fiscal year 2020 (figure 1). Revenue from the federal excise tax on gasoline ($25.8 billion) and diesel fuel ($10.5 billion) accounts for 84 percent of the total.
How are you going to make this up?
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UNITED STATES GASOLINE PHASEOUT STATUS:

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In October 2020, US Senator Jeff Merkley (D-OR) and Rep Mike Levin (D-CA-49) introduced the federal Zero Emission Vehicles Act of 2020. This bill would require that 50% of all new passenger vehicles sold in 2025 in the US are ZEVs. The requirement would ramp up 5% each year, to 100% of new vehicle sales by 2035. The bills are co-sponsored by Senators Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), Bernie Sanders (I-VT), and Cory Booker (D-NJ) in the Senate, and Representatives Joe Neguse (D-CO-1), Earl Blumenauer (D-OR-3), Lisa Blunt Rochester (D-DE-At Large), Suzanne Bonamici (D-OR-1), Julia Brownley (D-CA-26), Judy Chu (D-CA-27), Emanuel Cleaver, II (D-MO-5), Mark DeSaulnier (D-CA-11), Anna G. Eshoo (D-CA-18), Jared Huffman (D-CA-2), Pramila Jayapal (D-WA-7), Barbara Lee (D-CA-13), Alan Lowenthal (D-CA-47), Jerry Nadler (D-NY-10), and Chellie Pingree (D-ME-1) in the House.

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In October 2019, Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) proposed a plan to replace every gasoline powered car on the road with an electric one by 2040.



They are planning to move EL-QUICKO.
Introducing a bill and passing the bill are two VERY different things. Then we come to actually enacting the bill. Yet another huge hurdle.

Stuff like this has been going on since what, the early '70s?
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If we were to actually use logic, we would be fully endorsing hybrid technology. Use the existing fossil fuels along with electric until we could slowly transition to more EVs if they are found to be, indeed, better for the environment and nature. But, politics and logic seem to be polar opposites.
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It has been pointed out to me by another member that my analysis of the situation above was lacking in facts and details, so I will apologize and supplement the information presented.

The scamsters actually began the operational part of climate attack campaign
way back in 1989, and just like Gore later in 2006 we only had "10 years" then too.
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