1970 JUDGE RAM AIR IV !

bigiron · #1 04-30-2005, 06:42 PM

FIRST TIME FOR SALE !!DOCUMENTED FACTORY NO OPTION RAM AIR IV JUDGE BLACK ON BLACK FACTORY PONTIAC RACE CAR !!! THIS JUDGE HAS ABOUT 100 OR SO TRACK RUNS. 29 MILES SHOWING ON SPEEDOMETER AND HAS NEVER BEEN TITLED . INTERIOR IS ALL FACTORY AND STILL LOOKS NEW. THERE IS DOCUMENTED PROOF FROM PONTIAC MOTOR DIVISION IN THERE INVOLVMENT IN RACING BIG IRON {NAME OF THE CAR) BIG IRON HELD NATIONAL RECORDS -I HAVE PICTURES FROM DAY 1 PONTIAC RACED IT AND I HAVE TALKED TO THE MAN WHO RACED ALL OF THE BIG IRON CARS AND CAN GET YOU IN TOUCH WITH HIM. THIS JUDGE WAS IN A COUPLE OF EDITIONS OF 1970 AND 1971 HOT ROT MAGAZINE ---ALWAYS STORED AND NEVER BEEN IN WEATHER OR STREET DRIVEN ---- PART OF PONTIAC HISTORY DESERVES TO BE IN A MUSEUM 295,000 323-377-4616 YEHIEL ARUSSI--CALL FOR ALL DETAILS

**csx289** · #2 04-30-2005, 08:24 PM

Yehiel,
Isn't this the same car you offered me a few weeks ago for $125k? Did you get it put back together? Just curious...
Colin

bigiron · #3 04-30-2005, 10:28 PM

SAME CAR ---THERE IS A SALE PENDING - THEY RACED IT WITH A FIBERGLASS HOOD AND KEPT THE ORIGINAL IN STORAGE THE ORIGINAL HOOD IS BACK ON. KRAMER MOTORS OUT OF NEBRASKA HAD HAND PAINTED STRIPES AND BIG IRON ON THE SIDE OF THE DOOR ---WAS THEN REPAINTED IN 1972 AND STILL SHINES NICE FOR A DRIVER ----THE PRICE IS FOR IT READY FOR NATIONAL SHOWS . I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS CAR IN A MUSEUM ! THIS CAR HAS GREAT RACE HISTORY. THERE IS ONLY A FEW BLACK RAM IV JUDGES LEFT --- FREEMONT CALIFORNIA Z PLANT JUDGE . ALL ORIGINAL BODY PANEL---THANKS FOR ALL THE INTEREST !!

**Charley Lillard** · #4 05-01-2005, 12:49 AM

So who is posting, Yehiel or Eric in the the bigiron profile ? And is the price bump from 125K to 295K a special price for Yenko.net members ?

GTO_DON · #5 05-01-2005, 04:02 AM

THIS GUY YEHIEL SHOULD BE BANNED FROM THIS SITE!!! HIS CHARACTER HAS BEEN CALLED INTO QUESTION MANY TIMES WITH OTHER MEMBERS HERE. I GOT A CALL FROM HIM WHEN I WAS AT CARLISLE AND HE ASSURED ME THE CAR WAS MINE!! HE THEN WENT ON TO PROMISE ME FIRST SHOT AT THE LOWER PRICE. HE IS NOT A TRUE CAR GUY! JUST ANOTHER SO CALLED DEALER WHO TRYS TO MAKE AS MUCH AS HE CAN ON A CERTAIN CAR. I MYSELF AM SORRY I EVER SPOKE TO HIM AND ALSO SORRY I EDUCATED HIM ABOUT THESE CARS. HE IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED AT ALL. IVE ALSO HEARD OTHER STORYS ABOUT THIS CAR. ONE THAT IT IS NOT NUMBERS MATCHING AS HE SAYS.ANOTHE MEMBER HERE HAS ASSURED ME THIS.PLUS HE IS HAVING IT RESTORED BY A SHOP THAT KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT GTO'S. BECAUSE HE TOLD ME THEY WORK CHEAP OUT IN CALIFORNIA! THE CAR SOUNDS LIKE IT STILL NEEDS ALOT OF WORK.THE CAR WAS BOUGHT FOR 55K AND HE WANTS TO MAKE 250K!! NOT A BAD DAYS WORK.

EVERY BODY LIKE TO MAKE A PROFIT ON THEIR CARS WHEN THEY SELL THEM BUT THIS IS LUDACRIS.GUYS LIKE THIS IS WHATS MAKING THIS SO CALLED HOBBY DISGUSTING ANYMORE!!!! HE USES PEOPLE FOR WHAT HE CAN GET OUT OF THEM!

YEHIEL,YOUR A REAL PRINCE!DO ME A FAVOR AND LOSE MY NUMBER! I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER WHEN YOU STIFFED MATT ON THAT CAMSHAFT AND TRIED TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE I GOT IT. YOU ARE NOT AN HONEST PERSON.YOUR PARENTS MUST BE VERY PROUD OF YOU.

IF I WOULD HAVE KNOWN YOU WERE GOING TO BE LIKE THIS,I WOULD HAVE NEVER EDUCATED YOU ON THE GREEN RAM IV JUDGE YOU GOT LUCKY ON.I WISH THE MARKET WOULD DROP ON THESE CARS SO GUYS LIKE YOU CAN GO BACK UNDER YOUR ROCKS WHICH YOU CAME!!!!! I KNOW,HOW ABOUT SELLING YUGOS LIKE YOU USED TO BEFORE YOU DISCOVERED GTO'S.

IM SORRY FOR THE RANT GUYS BUT I FEEL THIS NEEDED TO BE SAID. JMHO!

**csx289** · #6 05-01-2005, 04:20 AM

I would have to agree with GTO DON. Yehiel called my dealership many times until he got a hold of me to ask me if I'd be interested in this car. After a long, long conversation, I was assured that only 3 people knew about the car and that I was going to be the first call when it was ready to be sold, all I had to do was fly to California , confirm I liked it, and it was mine. The ASKING price was $125k but I got the feeling that was negotiable. I, too, was told the car was not numbers matching , and that the mileage was unverifiable becasue the speedo was disconnected for years.

Unfortunately, there seems to be a trend these days of people getting greedy. Apparentley this greed has made peoples word no good anymore. I have had more deals go south because somebody thought they could make a few extra bucks and they don't honor their word. Even on cars I have signed contracts on and have paid for!! Very, very sad.

I hate to say it, but these are just cars and it troubles me that now you can't even take a guy at his word anymore because of a CAR.

I don't care if you are a dealer or not. To me, a man's word is the most important thing he has. All the money being thrown at cars is just showing us who belives this and who doesn't!

125k to 295k , wow! I hope it finds a good home in the end, sounds like a neat car. Not 295k neat, but I am sure somebody will pay what they think it is worth. Just make sure to make your deal, pay for it, and get it out of there all at once!!

Colin

bigiron · #7 05-01-2005, 04:33 AM

i AM SORRY BUT YOU ARE A DEALER YOURSELF DON .YOU HAVE SOLD PLENTY OF GOATS YOURSELF AND IF YOU WERE OFFERED 150,000 OVER THE PRICE I WAS ASKING YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND . NEVER PEOMISED ANY DEAL !THIS IS PURE JELOUSY DON BECAUSE YOU DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO RESELL IT FOR DOUBLE WHAT I WAS ASKING .THE CAR IS NOW SOLD AND DEAL IS DONE ! SORRY DON YOU HAVE MY # AND DID NOT EVEN STEP UP TO BAT . FIRST COME WITH CASH WINS THE BEAUTY -YOU EDUCATED ME ? All

GTO_DON · #8 05-01-2005, 04:33 AM

AMEN!

GTO_DON · #9 05-01-2005, 04:43 AM

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i AM SORRY BUT YOU ARE A DEALER YOURSELF DON .YOU HAVE SOLD PLENTY OF GOATS YOURSELF AND IF YOU WERE OFFERED 150,000 OVER THE PRICE I WAS ASKING YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND . NEVER PEOMISED ANY DEAL !THIS IS PURE JELOUSY DON BECAUSE YOU DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO RESELL IT FOR DOUBLE WHAT I WAS ASKING .THE CAR IS NOW SOLD AND DEAL IS DONE ! SORRY DON YOU HAVE MY # AND DID NOT EVEN STEP UP TO BAT . FIRST COME WITH CASH WINS THE BEAUTY -YOU EDUCATED ME ? All

[/ QUOTE ]THATS BULLSHIT AND YOU KNOW IT. AND I SELL MY CARS TO STEP UP TO A BETTER CAR NOT SELL IT FOR PROFIT.I HAVE A REGULAR JOB.AND YOU DID PROMISE ME AS#$%^!! AND I DID EDUCATE YOU!! ME AND ERIC AND JEFF POTOKAR AND MIKE AND THE LIST GOES ON. IM SURE COLIN DID ALSO. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT,ANSWER YOUR PHONE NOW! IM CALLING YOU NOW AND WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS WITHOUT THE FORUM.

bigiron · #10 05-01-2005, 06:25 AM

I HAVE FOUND A LOT RARE HARD TO FIND GOATS .I HAVE NEVER HAD 1 COMPLAINT ABOUT ANY CARS I HAVE SOLD IN THE LAST 8 YEARS . RECENTLY SOLD A RAM AIR IV JUDGE PALISADE GREEN FOR 40,000 LAST YEAR AND THE GUY WHO BOUGHT IT RESOLD IT AT RUSSO FOR 81,000 AND NOW WORTH 125,000 SR BLOCK . I ALSO SOLD A 1970 RAM AIR 3 4 SPEED CONV RESTORED FOR 27,500 AND NOW IS WOTH 75,000 . 455 HO CONVERTIBLE WITH 30 FACTORY OPTIONS FOR 20,000 AND NOW IS A 70,000 CAR .MY CAR IS 100% ALL CORRECT WW # MATCHING BLOCK DOCUMENTED AND A LETTER SIGHNED BY ORIGINAL OWNERS. GO BUY THAT SWEET CHEVELLE FOR 400,000 DON . YOU BUY AND SELL CHEVY'S AS WELL .YOU OFFERED ME YOUR 396 1969 CAR FOR 39,000 $ I STICK STRICTLY TO PONTIACS ! GOOD LUCK DON . ERIC ,JEFF ,TONY ,CARL,BARRY AND ALL WHO HAVE DEALT WITH ME NEVER HAD A PROBLEM BUYING FROM ME . EVERY RARE GTO I HAVE SOLD HAS DOUBLED IN PRICE IN THE PAST YEAR -THIS CAR DESREVES A BETTER OWNER THAN YOU DON . NO MORE CRYING. THERE IS NO PROMISES FOR LOOSERS LIKE YOU .