Interview with Mary Barra

[markinnaples]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

Reports out of Naples indicate that flooded EV's are literally time bombs. and some have already caught fire.

Fresh water is not very conducive but salt water conducts electricity very well. Salt is soluble in water and divides into sodium ions which are positively charged, and chloride ions, which are negatively charged.

All sources of electricity, like batteries, have two terminals, a positive and a negative.

SO:

Batteries saturated in salt water, (even if somewhat dry), have this conducive material spreading the current, which sparks, and then catches adjacent material on fire.

Mark,

What is the view on this in storm ravaged Naples??

Well, it's kind of a strange situation in Naples now. Most of what is west of Route 41 (Tamiami Trail - named because it goes from Tampa to Miami, just FYI, and which is predominantly a 4/5 lane road that has businesses on both sides nearly the entire length that generally ranges from a 1/2 mile to a few miles from the beach in the section from Tampa to Naples, where it turns east across the Everglades to Miami) has been either destroyed or at least suffered severe flooding from Naples to Punta Gorda. And while most of those areas are devastated, the rest of Naples got away scot-free from any kind of damage or affects at all from Ian. I think there is a lot of a kind of "survivor guilt" by the sections of the community that went unscathed.

Now, regarding the EV situation, I've only seen one video of an electric car that caught fire and it looked like they were, indeed, having to take a lot more time and water to put it out. Fox News is actually having a story on this exact topic in a few minutes, so I guess it's an issue.

[Big Block Bill]

Originally Posted by olredalert

----Yeah,,,Whats the cure for this???....Bill S

Stop producing Electric Cars?

Bill

[olredalert]

Originally Posted by Big Block Bill

Stop producing Electric Cars?

Bill

----Bingo!

[markinnaples]

Here's a local Naples story about EVs and the flood waters:

https://wsvn.com/news/local/florida/...n-wake-of-ian/

[Lee Stewart]

$1.6 million in electric cars burn after Hurricane Sandy

Nov. 1, 2012

Sixteen Fisker Karma electric vehicles caught fire and burned to the ground after being submerged by saltwater from Hurricane Sandy's storm surge.

The $100,000 cars were parked in Port Newark, N.J., prior to the storm's arrival, according to Jalopnik. The vehicles were submerged when Hurricane Sandy's storm surge beached the port, flooding the luxury electric vehicles and other cars parked in the port.

https://www.chron.com/cars/article/1...er-4000001.php

Almost 10 years ago. This is nothing new and it definitely hasn't stopped the promotion and production of EVs. EVs have become a political issue. To think any less is to ignore what is happening all over the world - GO GREEN.

[70 copo]

More Hummer EV news:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/gmc-hu...ace-plus-labor

[olredalert]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

More Hummer EV news:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/gmc-hu...ace-plus-labor

----Humbug!!!.....Bill S

[70 copo]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

More BAD news:

Looks like gM found the problem... "At present, gM is aware of three confirmed reports of water entering improperly sealed battery packs in the GMC Hummer EV. In two of these cases, the vehicles affected would not start, while in the third case, the vehicle lost propulsion while driving. The loss of propulsion while driving may increase the risk of a crash"

RECALL DETAILS HERE:

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/10...-pack-sealing/

[70 copo]

Mary said that following the Cobalt ignition switch cover up that She would work to change the corporate culture...Like any big organization that's easier said than done.

For those of you with 5.3's that burn oil..... you likely were aware of this:

https://www.gmenginelitigation.com/

A $102.6 MILLION dollar verdict was returned after the Plaintiff's produced emails that showed that gM was aware of the problem said it was fixed, and conspired to cover the defect up internally.

In 2010, gM recommended to its dealers that they clean the pistons of the vehicles in question. That solution was ineffective and company engineers and other employees recommended that the piston ring design be changed. gM made other ineffective engine design changes in 2011, but the oil consumption issues persisted until gM finally discontinued production of the engine following the 2014 model year.

The verdict was returned after in only one day's deliberation and as expected is now under appeal by gM

The jury found that gM violated the breach of implied warranty of merchantability to California plaintiffs, the breach of implied warranty of merchantability to North Carolina vehicle owners, and breached the provisions of the Idaho Consumer Protection Act

38,000 members of the class--each person will only get $2,700 to cover repairs.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/10...umption-trial/

https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...ective-Engines

The real damage here is to gM's reputation. It is astonishing that gM let this issue even go to trial in the first place.

[Tenney]

Derelict ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiWAajyCtJY