Interesting Interview with Elon Musk

[markinnaples]

I agree with much of what all of you have said, and a couple things that I truly appreciate that he spoke of in this interview were the following:

1. As mentioned above, the current spending is untenable (just like the border situation to me), and if we keep going ahead and spending money we don't have, we will end up broke and no longer the world leader in so much that we have been for the past 100+ years. And he's right about that $1.7 trillion budget that was just passed, and sadly, both sides voted for it. Who can be trusted to spend taxpayer money responsibly? Seems like very, very few people.

2. I've also heard him say several times over the past few years that one of the most significant challenges that will face man over the next generation going forward is the lack of population growth, which is in direct opposition to what people like Bill Gates and several others have said.

3. One of the things I like about EM is that he speaks so logically, and though we may not agree on a lot, at least he usually presents what logical argument he used to come up with his perspective.

[70 copo]

Originally Posted by scuncio

Right, Martin Eberhard’s company.

That's correct. The founders of TESLA were die hard EV-1 loyalists who petitioned GM to keep the car alive or at least allow then to keep the car but GM was still liability shy so they forced the owners to give them back under the provisions of the lease arrangement.

https://www.hagerty.com/media/car-pr...aunched-tesla/


The founders of TESLA even organized the mock Funeral for EV-1 as well and begged GM to keep it.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...v-1-118595941/

[70 copo]

Development flow summary that was uncovered during the Electric Camaro research by Pilot car registry:

Elecrovair/Electrovair 2
Electric Camaro Program
Shopper car Program
Lunar Rover Program
Mini car program

All of this developed into EV-1 then abandoned by GM

EV-1 technology then was used to launch TESLA

[scuncio]

When you say EV1 technology “launched” Tesla what exactly are you referring to?

[70 copo]

Multiple GM engineers have confirmed that the founders of TESLA copied abandoned GM technology to create the foundations of what would become TESLA.

Nobody at TESLA has denied it.

[Tenney]

Originally Posted by Charley Lillard

I was surprised to find out he didn't come up with the Tesla car. Simply invested and bought the company.

Petersen 11/20/22 ...

[70 copo]

The styling resemblance to EV-1 is pretty obvious...

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by Lynn

I also think he is spot on about the deficit. You can't take in $4 Trillion and spend $7 Trillion ($3 Trillion deficit) year after year and NOT expect something to give. It is insane.

My dad had this same observation regarding GM.

Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective) he did not live long enough to see the company that provided our livelihood for two generations go under.

K

[70 copo]

GM always abandoned EV technology because they could not find a way to make money at it. For example GM GAVE the defense laboratory guys their own in house development data to start the mini car program that went private. It too failed on the finance end.

But TESLA survived... HOW? because Elon wanted it to. The company failed to make any profit until January 2020.

Very few companies can afford to run at a loss for a decade or better and stay in business.

[scuncio]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

Multiple GM engineers have confirmed that the founders of TESLA copied abandoned GM technology to create the foundations of what would become TESLA.

Nobody at TESLA has denied it.

When you say "abandoned GM technology" are you referring to IP that is off patent?

This is one of the better essays on Tesla's history with AC Propulsion: https://www.autoweek.com/car-life/cl...-it-was-tesla/