Go Back   The Supercar Registry > General Discussion > Technical & Restoration


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 09-20-2004, 07:18 PM
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY's Avatar
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: PA
Posts: 13,092
Thanks: 715
Thanked 296 Times in 137 Posts
Default Re: 69 BB identification

I think you've answered your own questions if you've got the invoice for the car, sounds like the real deal to me. I wouldn't worry too much about the core support, it sounds like the BB version.

Check the rear frame rail for the dual exhaust plate and look above the rear at the floor boards to see if the car has the rear sway bar supports welded into the floors - only SS cars and Yenko Deuces got them.

Welcome to NNN - great club! You will have to bring the car to Super Chevy NH and to North Country Nova's annual 'Nova Day' Epping.
__________________
Marlin
70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride)
69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride)
67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride)
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-21-2004, 03:50 AM
All American Racer All American Racer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: CT
Posts: 156
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: 69 BB identification

YDR, That attachment I posted is only a copy of what the seller told me was the original invoice. He claims to have bought the car with that copy included. If I had THE original invoice I would breathe easier. But nobody here has ever even heard of Charlie Collins Chevrolet. That's a whole bunch of sharp chevy guys for this place never to be heard of. I've considered trying to contact the original owner. I got that idea from another post here. I wish Chevy had something like PHS where they could (for a fee) take your VIN# and tell you what you have. As I told Wilmasboy, I love the car and will never regret buying it but it would be nice to know I've got a real BB SS before someone with some real knowledge puts my foot in my mouth.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-22-2004, 04:18 PM
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY's Avatar
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: PA
Posts: 13,092
Thanks: 715
Thanked 296 Times in 137 Posts
Default Re: 69 BB identification

Ok, that is a bummer, I thought you had the original copy of the invoice. I would definitely try to contact the original owner, or a family member. I had a co-worker walk in one day with a POP from a '70 Nova that her aunt bought new. She stumbled onto it and thought I might like it! You never know, keep diggin

It certainly sounds like the real deal to me. Let us know about the trans crossmember and the fuel line.

I stumbled onto a guy in an alley changing a wheel on a '72 Nova yesterday. Inside the storage rental unit was a '70 L34, a/t, 12 bolt posi, w/ buckets, non-gauge console, 2 exterior moldings, F41, and a - - paint code! You never know what's hiding!
__________________
Marlin
70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride)
69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride)
67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride)
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-22-2004, 10:00 PM
lowmile lowmile is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Thomasville Ga.
Posts: 635
Thanks: 127
Thanked 122 Times in 55 Posts
Default Re: 69 BB identification

Would the 69's have the sway bar mounts? Marc if you pull out the top of the back seat you may find the build sheet and on a 1969 it would have the engine code. m
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-22-2004, 10:22 PM
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY's Avatar
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: PA
Posts: 13,092
Thanks: 715
Thanked 296 Times in 137 Posts
Default Re: 69 BB identification

'69 Novas didn't get the rear sway bars.
__________________
Marlin
70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride)
69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride)
67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride)
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 09-23-2004, 02:27 AM
WILMASBOYL78's Avatar
WILMASBOYL78 WILMASBOYL78 is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: new york
Posts: 8,179
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1,613 Times in 496 Posts
Default Re: 69 BB identification

And you bought it , right??????......
__________________
02 Berger 380hp #95
Lots of L78 Novas
Join National Nostalgic Nova!
70 Orange Cooler
69 Camaro
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 09-23-2004, 02:48 AM
All American Racer All American Racer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: CT
Posts: 156
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: 69 BB identification

Lowmile and YDR, Thanks for your continued interest in helping me solve this mystery. Here are the updated positives: BB radiator support(thanks allen for the great shots), correct engine mounting, correct BB heater hose location,and front power disc brakes. Now the negatives: one fuel line with no signs of ghosts of other lines ever having lived there. It appears to be a 3/8 line but I have to measure it. I also have to look on top of the tank to see if anything is capped off, SB transmission xmember holding up a 1970 M22 (Colvin's book for reference), nobody seems to have ever heard of the dealer listed on that "dealer invoice"(Collins Chevrolet/Bayonne NJ), no build sheet under back seat unless it's in the foam somewhere - it's not in the springs, front seats not original but are correct 69 buckets, engine is a non-original 396 w/a day 2 flexfan - cool fan but no ID help. Still to be researched - correct dual exhaust hangar mounts, shock tag ID - a longshot I feel, looking harder at that "invoice" to try and think of something I may have overlooked. Any pics you Nova guys have to offer are GREATLY appreciated. I have about a half dozen Nova/Chevy books but they all have their faults. Special thanks to all you guys with the PMs and emails. I couldn't have put this mystery in better hands. Digital pics will come as soon as I actually buy a digital camera (soon). sincerely, Marc
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 09-23-2004, 02:48 AM
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY's Avatar
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: PA
Posts: 13,092
Thanks: 715
Thanked 296 Times in 137 Posts
Default Re: 69 BB identification

Nope!

The owner has unrealistic opinions on value. This car was apart, only the rear and front sub were intact. Still cool to see a - - paint code.

One interesting thing about this car is that it had the black out treatment on the inside of the door frame around the door glass as we've seen on medium and light colored '69 Novas. Unusual to see that on a '70, but maybe the - - paint code included the blackout feature as well.

The color looked to me like a Cadillac color, Cinnamon Firemist Poly.

http://autocolorlibrary.com/cgi-bin/...illac-pg01.jpg
__________________
Marlin
70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride)
69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride)
67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride)
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-23-2004, 02:54 AM
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY's Avatar
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: PA
Posts: 13,092
Thanks: 715
Thanked 296 Times in 137 Posts
Default Re: 69 BB identification

These pics were taken b4 I bought this BB car, here's the core support - note the big opening and the single 3/8's fuel line usually indicating the L78 version of the BB.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Marlin
70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride)
69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride)
67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride)
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 09-23-2004, 03:02 AM
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY's Avatar
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: PA
Posts: 13,092
Thanks: 715
Thanked 296 Times in 137 Posts
Default Re: 69 BB identification

Here is the BB 4speed crossmember opening, rectangular with an angled corner.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Marlin
70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride)
69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride)
67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride)
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

O Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.