Interview with Mary Barra

[Crush]

Originally Posted by JoeC

Tesla V3 Supercharging adds 75 miles in just 5 minutes

the future does not look good for new fossil fuel vehicles

"Many countries are now banning new vehicles that run on fossil fuels like gasoline, diesel or liquefied petroleum gas. Germany, India, Ireland, Israel, and the Netherlands have announced plans to ban fossil fuel cars starting in 2030; Britain, France, Taiwan and California will ban them in 2040; and Norway in 2025. Paris, Rome, Madrid, Athens and Mexico City will ban diesel vehicles in 2025."

I just can’t see how these countries can ban fossil fuels in short order. As stated a few times, they are lacking the infrastructure to go electric at least short term.
With the recent fluctuations of the stock market and dropping of oil prices the political influence becomes much stronger in terms of controlling the economic impact to the world by reduced oil use. Many on this site have experienced recession and inflation as it relates to the price of a barrel of oil and to some extent our economy could be impacted by the reduction of fossil fuel use.

Something to think about is that many 3rd world countries need oil byproducts to sustain life ie., heat their homes. As such the use of fossil fuels will be around a long time.

[70 copo]

Originally Posted by JoeC

Tesla V3 Supercharging adds 75 miles in just 5 minutes

the future does not look good for new fossil fuel vehicles

"Many countries are now banning new vehicles that run on fossil fuels like gasoline, diesel or liquefied petroleum gas. Germany, India, Ireland, Israel, and the Netherlands have announced plans to ban fossil fuel cars starting in 2030; Britain, France, Taiwan and California will ban them in 2040; and Norway in 2025. Paris, Rome, Madrid, Athens and Mexico City will ban diesel vehicles in 2025."

Yes... the world wide war on the internal combustion engine. Many in the hobby are concerned, some are in denial- some are too old to care.

Fortunately markets in the free world are built around the consumer. If electric vehicles are made more convenient, more reliable, safer than an ICE vehicle, then the free market will kill ICE all by its self.

So if GM has a winner then why is Mary Barra is on the record in mid 2019 asking the US Government to change the "200,000 vehicle rule"? This is the the so called "tax credit cliff" which is a subsidy quota that mandates relief to the US taxpayer to stop subsidizing EV sales in the future.

US Government said no.

If GM goes into Chapter again GM could be finished. I suspect the Next 12 months are critical for Mary. as I said back on page 1 She looks to be "all in" at this time. I wish her luck.

[jdv69z]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

Right now I am a bit creeped out.

The GM insider decided to comment on today's events:

https://www.generalmotors.green/prod...r/0304-ev.html

"The recent Fox Business interview was a complete disaster for the company...many Dealers are up in arms telling GM "Stop you are going to put us out of business" especially dealers outside urban areas".

"Your commentary on the EPA in the other thread hits close to home on many issues but let me red pill you here":

"It is not about the environment but that is the presentation being used, It is about the money, all about the money"

"Gas taxes are tough to raise currently, too many political rear ends in the fire and you are messing with the oil companies and the lobbyists that represent them, so know this big oil wants you to drive your car because that is how they make money and that money gets returned politically.

So why EV's? The money to be gained through taxation is just huge. You will be taxed by the mile. Think of every road as being a toll road. That is the end game here and there is a curve here through adaptation that is anticipated to do the following in this order:

First as more people buy EV's Gas taxes will need to necessarily rise to the point where you will be taxed right out of your ICE car. You will be able to keep it but you will pay so much for fuel EV's will become cheaper to operate.

After EV's are mainstreamed then the combination of tax to operate and the infrastructure and convenience limitations will cause most drivers to actually reduce travel. At this stage autonomous vehicles are projected to take hold with the market causing your car of choice to be a rental,- Meaning you no longer own it you call it for a ride. This all happens in a future projected to have effective urban mass transit for those who need to commute with many teleworking from home.

So here is the take away-GM is chasing a future where you do not own a car, and you do not actually drive one either. It is fully automated and it will take you where you can afford to pay to go.

In other words a futuristic Johnny cab. They do not care about you because you want to drive. If things go to plan GM will not have a product you want to buy - they know that".

So who gets hurt the most here? The poor who do not have the means to adapt to these changes. Meanwhile politicians spew rhetoric about how they "care" for the poor. The saddest part of all is that too many believe the rhetoric.

[Jeff H]

Originally Posted by Charley Lillard

Hey Jeff...My guess is you can add Tesla battery storage to your homes solar power and get the cars charge off of the batteries at night :-)

What price range do the batteries cost? I have solar on my house, but it feeds the grid and I get credit for what goes out and then use the grid when the solar isn't producing. I'm sure I would need more panels to charge a vehicle in addition power the house.

[70 copo]

Originally Posted by jdv69z

So who gets hurt the most here? The poor who do not have the means to adapt to these changes. Meanwhile politicians spew rhetoric about how they "care" for the poor. The saddest part of all is that too many believe the rhetoric.

Socialism and its policies has little impact on the wealthy
and the poor.

The middle of the society always carries the cost because they work, and pay the majority of the taxes.

[Charley Lillard]

Originally Posted by Jeff H

What price range do the batteries cost? I have solar on my house, but it feeds the grid and I get credit for what goes out and then use the grid when the solar isn't producing. I'm sure I would need more panels to charge a vehicle in addition power the house.

I think you can get Tesla batteries for cheap but would check into it since you already have solar.

[Tenney]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

Fortunately markets in the free world are built around the consumer. If electric vehicles are made more convenient, more reliable, safer than an ICE vehicle, then the free market will kill ICE all by its self.

Yep, and more fun?

Won't mean wooden rollercoasters aren't still a blast, though!

[Mr70]

Like watching a drag race between 2 cars,in silence.

[70 copo]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

There is zero anxiety anything with ICE. I can go as far as I want all I do is buy a tank of gas.back on the road in under 6 minutes usually the cup of coffee and the restroom break takes longer so we will say 10 minutes to be fair.

Lets have some fun with this...so I am gonna hash tag and bold (#) where EV's achieve parity with ICE right now.

Travel when I want #

Travel where I want

Travel the route I want.

No anxiety with Hills and mountains

No anxiety with Hauling-Towing

No anxiety with wilderness Off road trips

No anxiety using PC's watching movies, or charging phones in vehicle.

No anxiety with a long delay in traffic due to a wreck or traffic jam.

No anxiety due to long lines to fuel.

No anxiety due to delays while fueling is occurring.

No anxiety as to my cost to travel via taxation.

No anxiety as to repairs if it breaks down (pretty much anyplace)

Tenney,

It is not exactly about fun or roller coasters. Please tell me what am I missing here?

[70 copo]

Without knowing the safety of the newer upcoming Battery technology from GM what we have today is Knowledge based upon experience. What we know:

These EV's can experience multiple classes of fires:

Class A (tires, fabrics, plastics).
Class B (fuel).
Class C (lithium-ion batteries in hybrid and electric cars).
Class D (magnesium, titanium, aluminum and lithium).
Electric vehicle fires can exceed 5,000 F. Applying water or foam may cause a violent flare-up as the water molecules separate into explosive hydrogen and oxygen gases.

There are several common risks for first responders associated with electric vehicle fires:

Electrical shock (up to 400 volts).
Extremely high temperatures and thermal runaway.
Toxic fumes.
Lithium burns (respiratory and skin reactions).
Toxic runoff.
Reignition up to 24 hours after initial extinguishment.