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Old 04-14-2020, 04:24 PM
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Interesting that it shows the car ordered with trim rings. I thought no T/As got trim rings in 1970, but I'm not a Pontiac expert by any means.
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Old 04-14-2020, 04:51 PM
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He just caught another Lucky Break
Being originally ordered/sold via Knafel is a saving grace for a car that rough.

Not anymore value necessarily when restored being Ram3 Auto AC, but some extra enrichment to its heritage.
Knafel was my favorite race team/dealer.

A Ram4 car from Knafel would be a whole different stratosphere though.
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Trim Rings were an option, that most didn't spring for.
On 70 T/A

The Docs i posted for the VanNuys car - was also ordered with Trim Rings.
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PHS can basically tell you over the phone - if you pay with Card.
If you call during a business time when they would usually answer the phone.

To say, if you stumbled across a car you were told was "special/rare" but there was no documentable proof or drivetrain existing.
They would confirm - Yes its a judge with blah blah etc...
Then send you the Docs or Fax them to you.

One case was a guy found a 68 Bird Vert at a swap meet car corral.
Nothing special looking with NOM cookie cutter drivetrain.
No special claims made by seller.
He made the call -
Was an ultra ultra rare RamAir 2 , 4spd convertible, in hiding.
He bought it - WELL BELOW VALUE
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Cool car. Great info Baron. Wow, that hood is really rusty.
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I didn't get a trim tag photo but here is the VIN on the dash and the door. 228870N115373

Thanks for all the info, Baron.
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Hi 1967Z28, are you Jon from camaros.org? I visit the T/A section over there from time to time, love that place and the photos.


Anyways, man that car is in horrible shape, rust really got to it.
I'm curious as to what they did for cruise control or if that's a practical joke. "they" are still out there, for sure; but what of them is left for you to find?..... that's the question!
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He made the call -
Was an ultra ultra rare RamAir 2 , 4spd convertible, in hiding.
He bought it - WELL BELOW VALUE
To keep everyone from going broke buying PHS on every 68 400 Firebird you come across - there is a tiny indicator even if ALL the drivetrain is missing or swapped.
The Ram2 Roundport cars didn't go mainstream until Mid-May build dates.
That guy knew this factoid - and rolled the dice since it was a late production car.

Only 3 Convertibles known to still exist, and 13 Hardtops known
No special badging or special heater boxes or yada yada
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Nick, yes that's me and thanks for the compliment on the T/A racing section.

The cruise control is an aftermarket add on. It looks like one of the ones you could buy through Sears back in the day.
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I'm curious as to what they did for cruise control or if that's a practical joke.
The apparatus is still on the driver fenderwell apron.
My 77 Can/Am had the exact same looking (aftermarket) set-up underhood and on the turn signal lever.
Worked fine.
I liked it
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