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It wasint Black. 69-69 and its the 124379N620192
I remember that car being for sale. No docs unfortunately, but a solid story. As far as Baldwin being unaware of the COPO program, I always call BS on that. More likely they kept it super quiet at Rosen's request - why would a guy who puts 427s in customer cars for a living want anybody to know about a factory-installed 427 program? He wouldn't.

Tiny dealerships in Canada were getting COPOS and a connected east coast (NEW YORK!) dealer doesn't know about it?? Hahahaha! C'mon.

I hope this yellow car turns out to be something special, sure seems like it might be - best of luck!
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Old 07-09-2019, 04:10 PM
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Urban legend at this time. No proof there was a minimum order requirement for any dealer other than Gibb/Yenko.
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I always call BS on that. More likely they kept it super quiet at Rosen's request - why would a guy who puts 427s in customer cars for a living want anybody to know about a factory-installed 427 program? He wouldn't.

Tiny dealerships in Canada were getting COPOS and a connected east coast (NEW YORK!) dealer doesn't know about it?? Hahahaha! C'mon.
I don’t see a lot of BS here
it was more difficult to get a COPO 427 then a SS396

Motion and Nickey both advertised their 1967 to 1969 Camaro conversions as
“SS 427 Camaros” and didn’t use the COPO 427s.
They seemed to have used the same plan from 1967 to 1969

Scuncio Chev sold COPO 427s and did 427 conversions

In the Fred Gibb interview 1991, he was asked about the COPO L72 Camaros and he said
“ We sold a few, but we did one or two change overs a week on our own. “

Dick Harrell had COPO 427 cars but also did 427 conversions

Nickey did 2 1969 Z/28 to 427 conversions according to the info on this L88 Z/28
http://www.corvettes-musclecars.com/...yZ28/index.htm
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When I see a Chevrolet Central Office document with that proviso I will be convinced.
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I don’t see a lot of BS here
it was more difficult to get a COPO 427 then a SS396

Motion and Nickey both advertised their 1967 to 1969 Camaro conversions as
“SS 427 Camaros” and didn’t use the COPO 427s.
They seemed to have used the same plan from 1967 to 1969

Scuncio Chev sold COPO 427s and did 427 conversions

In the Fred Gibb interview 1991, he was asked about the COPO L72 Camaros and he said
“ We sold a few, but we did one or two change overs a week on our own. “

Dick Harrell had COPO 427 cars but also did 427 conversions

Nickey did 2 1969 Z/28 to 427 conversions according to the info on this L88 Z/28
http://www.corvettes-musclecars.com/...yZ28/index.htm
I'd like to add that Mel Perry at Norwood Motors in Rhode Island also had COPO 427 cars and did 427 and L88 conversions.
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That adds up to about 110 dealers known to have sold [non-Yenko] COPO 9561 Camaros. I'm sure there are others.

Subtract Yenko and his 198 cars; 799/110 = 7.26 avg cars per dealer. Some dealers, Berger in particular, are known to have had 30-40 COPOs further lowering the average.

Might be there was an initial 10 car requirement but the numbers don't support it.
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I don’t see a lot of BS here
it was more difficult to get a COPO 427 then a SS396

Motion and Nickey both advertised their 1967 to 1969 Camaro conversions as
“SS 427 Camaros” and didn’t use the COPO 427s.
They seemed to have used the same plan from 1967 to 1969

Scuncio Chev sold COPO 427s and did 427 conversions

In the Fred Gibb interview 1991, he was asked about the COPO L72 Camaros and he said
“ We sold a few, but we did one or two change overs a week on our own. “

Dick Harrell had COPO 427 cars but also did 427 conversions

Nickey did 2 1969 Z/28 to 427 conversions according to the info on this L88 Z/28
http://www.corvettes-musclecars.com/...yZ28/index.htm
All dwarfed by Motion's book of business. Nope, not buying the "we never knew about it" line.
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It seems like Kurt Sonen knows about more Baldwin COPOs

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1044089
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In the 1991 interview with Dale Berger jr he said they ordered 50 COPO L72 Camaros and 10 L72 Chevelles and thinks they sold 40 to 50 Camaros L72.

Yenko had about 198 L72 Camaros and 99 L72 Chevelles.

The next highest number I recall is 20 Camaro L72 sold.

Many say they just remember “a few” sold.



I used to buy parts from Jerry Roberts, the parts manager from Byrne Brothers Chevy in NY.
They sold Yenkos, COPO L72 Camaros and Chevelles. He did not remember how many they sold but said they had at least a few of each. He remembered lots of 1969 Z/28 ‘s as he bought a new one and said they had truck loads of them and at one time they averaged one a day sold.
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Is it known how many Camaro COPO L72 went to Canada ?

I thought GM of Canada Historical had the number from their records but I don't recall it.
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