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Old 05-21-2023, 04:52 PM
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This is a pic of my nose stripe that was layed out per the dimensions giving in the 67 AIM book. Looks like the pic Mark posted IMO.
John, your 4P car is the first one I’ve ever had a chance to look at in detail so I wasn’t aware of of the no black tail panel deal.Thanks for sharing these pics with all of us.
Does it still have the square single traction bar or did it ever have one?


I’m seeing a difference in stripe emblem placement ? Is it an optical illusion? The SS emblem on the original paint Camaro butts up to the body line and the stripe is well below the body line. On the white ‘67 the stripe butts up to the body line and the emblems are well above the body line. But yes laid out in similar fashion.

The white Camaros Layout is most like John’s Camaro
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... Does anyone have a copy of an original 1967 Salesman's order form ?
... I was thinking that possibly the confusion caused by the use of 4P on the cowl tag could be that on the Original Order form there may have been more then one way to order a 375hp Camaro .... by "checking " the SS 350 Option and then also "checking" the 396/375 Option
... thus switching out the 350 motor to the 396/375 motor !
... I am wondering that this confusion started on the Original Order Form being that this was the first year of the Camaro ?
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The confusion was probably at the assembly plant. A friend knows of at least one early L78 that received a blacked out tail pan sometime after the bumper was on and trunk weather strip installed.

John your car sure appears to be original paint and it just slipped through without anyone catching it. Not common, but understandable for an early L78.
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Old 05-25-2023, 03:18 PM
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Here's what I know of the 4P L78 cars. 10 are known and there are two more that appear to be added L78 engines. Several of the 10 are block or docs only, so no vehicle data.
The first cars were the pacers.
The first L78 for public sale was Jenkin's car.
The only non-IPC cars that are known to exist are:
Jenkins
John's blue car
Mark's old red car
White convertible that Richard knows about.
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I wasn't aware Jenkins car was sold through a dealer to Jenkins. Good to know and thank you for the information.


Not to derail this thread but are there any more early photos like the ones I posted previously? Hoping to see it in more stock form (before lettering).










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Thanks for that info Kurt! I always wondered how many might have been produced.
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.... Thanks for the info Kurt.

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Old 05-25-2023, 06:19 PM
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there was what we felt like a real one on ebay a number of years ago. It was in NJ so Phil Bate and I took a ride over to check it out. It had all the signs of being a 4p l78. I think it was early an april car and had all the big block heater core and frame mounts with the 4p code. I think it was black. He may have put it in his reg. as a possible car. I will have to find out
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Old 05-26-2023, 03:39 AM
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I wasn't aware Jenkins car was sold through a dealer to Jenkins.
I don't know how they handled the paperwork, but a guy from Grump's shop went to the Tech Center to pick up the car and drove it back to PA. Had to be a long cold trip with no heater, 4.56 gear, and in March.
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Old 05-28-2023, 06:17 PM
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... My car was put in the garage around 2008 and the owner started to Mini Tub the rear wheel wells to accommodate a wider tire and rim ... but he never completed it.

... The work was not real clean and I want to have it redone.
... Should I put it back with "Stock" wheel tubs
... or put mini tubs to accommodate the wider tires and wheels like he was trying to do ?
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... All his races were done with "Stock" wheel tubs.
... I appreciate ALL input.

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If the work was already done to your satisfaction, then I'd leave it, but since it needs work no question return the wheel tubs to stock configuration.
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