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What docs does that car have?
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Pusher-man I will look for the original post on the car and send u a pm.
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I PM'ed you the link, Scott
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RST</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Paceme .... I am a bit confused ... the title of this thread is &quot;Survivor or Restored&quot; and we were discussing that ... we will not be posting any restoration photos, or discussing the cars restoration... we will however share original photos of the car to assist anyone that wants to see original documentation that may be helpful.

Cheers. </div></div>

I Guess the rub is we are discussing the preservation of unrestored cars, your comments have been about restoring 11k mile 73 SD (and documenting the disassembly).

Now your partner Ken posts looking for his old unrestored 69 silver Z to restore. It's interesting when he was selling the car Z he echoed my feelings for unrestored cars &quot;I have driven this car, it's amazing, I have lots of fully restored cars and I must say, this is the best driving muscle car I have ever driven! It's fast, fun and solid!&quot;

I understand you're in the restoration business and you want cars to be perfect, in fact I looked at some of your amazing restorations at MCACN.

Unrestored cars are not perfect, but each assembly imperfection and the bruises each owner put there have a story to tell.

Look forward to following the restoration process on another forum...


BTW the Boss Cougar at MCACN really caught my eye....


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Keep up the great work Scott. Look forward to seeing your progress pictures and description. While I appreciate and respect survivor cars, I too would follow the same path you are taking and for the reasons you mention.
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Hey Steve, understood...... I love your passion. I want to clarify something ...... in the last 5 years we have only taken in 1 costumer car 1. All of the cars we have restored but 1 have been purchased by Mascar Classics and restored for Mascar Classics. We buy the cars we like and .... at the time ..... we fully intend on keeping them ..... however once they are done, we just can't seem to want to drive them ...... so after seeing this 73 SD Survivor car for sale for so long, I decided to buy it and drive the crap out of it ........ well, after we got it, we saw that in order to make it road worthy, it needed a bunch of stuff done ..... then I was worried about the motor so Kenny pulled the engine to check out the internals and guess what we found..... a pinched cam Bering and had I driven the car much, it most likely would have trashed the motor, so we decided to restore this great car.

My advice, if you buy a survivor it should not be driven it should be stored as is or put on display. I gave this 73 SD more than 1.5 years to sell to someone that would do that ...... guess what, nobody did, so, I payed 109K for the privilege of &quot;in my opinion&quot; doing the car justice and restoring it, hopefully it will be the best in the world....... then after MCACN I am going to drive the heck out of it! HARD [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] it won't be for sale .... for any amount of money, it's my private car.

So the moral of this story is .... if you see a rare survivor and it's desirable ..... you better buy it while you can and preserve it, or stick it in a museum ..... don't drive it &quot;could have a bad cam Bering and you could ruin it&quot; and if you don't buy it, and it's for sale for more than a few month .... well me or some A-Hole like me just might buy it and restore it [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

Love all of you, respect you all, have fun, live every day to its fullest, love your life and have fun ... I do [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]
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Below is a cut and paste from the Musclecars Wanted Forum and this Preservation Forum is kinda new so maybe it's time to start preserving the few survivors that are left vs new paint , chrome , interia ect.





WANTED: Original Paint 1969 Camaro
by JohnC
0
103
01/06/17 05:38 PM
by JohnC



Wtb survivor 1970 chevelle
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 all )
by rrover
58
7103
01/01/17 11:12 PM
by Donnie



Wanted Unrestored 1967 435 HP Corvette
by SBR
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191
01/01/17 04:17 PM
by SBR



69 L88 Corvette wanted to buy
( 1 2 all )
by 69 L88
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RST</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Steve, understood...... I love your passion. I want to clarify something ...... in the last 5 years we have only taken in 1 costumer car 1. All of the cars we have restored but 1 have been purchased by Mascar Classics and restored for Mascar Classics. We buy the cars we like and .... at the time ..... we fully intend on keeping them ..... however once they are done, we just can't seem to want to drive them ...... so after seeing this 73 SD Survivor car for sale for so long, I decided to buy it and drive the crap out of it ........ well, after we got it, we saw that in order to make it road worthy, it needed a bunch of stuff done ..... then I was worried about the motor so Kenny pulled the engine to check out the internals and guess what we found..... a pinched cam Bering and had I driven the car much, it most likely would have trashed the motor, so we decided to restore this great car.

My advice, if you buy a survivor it should not be driven it should be stored as is or put on display. I gave this 73 SD more than 1.5 years to sell to someone that would do that ...... guess what, nobody did, so, I payed 109K for the privilege of &quot;in my opinion&quot; doing the car justice and restoring it, hopefully it will be the best in the world....... then after MCACN I am going to drive the heck out of it! HARD [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] it won't be for sale .... for any amount of money, it's my private car.

So the moral of this story is .... if you see a rare survivor and it's desirable ..... you better buy it while you can and preserve it, or stick it in a museum ..... don't drive it &quot;could have a bad cam Bering and you could ruin it&quot; and if you don't buy it, and it's for sale for more than a few month .... well me or some A-Hole like me just might buy it and restore it [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

Love all of you, respect you all, have fun, live every day to its fullest, love your life and have fun ... I do [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] </div></div>

Hi Scott I just saw this. There are many segments to the hobby and it's all good. Glad you use your concours cars, too many are just wall art. The same for survivors, I drive both them both. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
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